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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 10:50 AM
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Most cars today have many parts designed and built in other countries. My previous 2009 VW CC, for instance, was built in Germany, the engine was made in Hungary and the transmission was from Japan. Welcome to the Global economy. Like most of you, I would prefer the entire car was built from U.S. parts and in plants right here in the U.S.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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Since this is a Getrag-designed transmission for Ford, Ford likely had only limited say in where it was manufactured. I suppose there could have been "we ain't taking it if it is manufactured there" conversations, but who really knows.

I agree - it gives a certain perception, given the visibility of the issues.
Well the quality control falls on Getrag - even though Mustang owners feel the brunt.
But I would bet that Ford had full involvement in sourcing a China manufactured product as part of a trade deal so China would allow more Ford plants (like the recently announced engine plant). Ford knew there would be some backlash by US buyers, but the opportunity for market share in China is significant to the longevity & success of the company (and shareholders) in a global market.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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How does where the transmission was built have anything to do with skip shift elimination?
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
Well the quality control falls on Getrag - even though Mustang owners feel the brunt.
But I would bet that Ford had full involvement in sourcing a China manufactured product as part of a trade deal so China would allow more Ford plants (like the recently announced engine plant). Ford knew there would be some backlash by US buyers, but the opportunity for market share in China is significant to the longevity & success of the company (and shareholders) in a global market.
Good point and certainly possible...
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
How does where the transmission was built have anything to do with skip shift elimination?


Its called a conversation. Some friends do that.


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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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Lets keep this thread on subject, no need to get into any other areas.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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This thread is going the way that all the MT82 threads have. Still don't understand why.

I'm waiting to hear more from people who've done this and the long term effects before I crawl under and unplug it.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
I'm waiting to hear more from people who've done this and the long term effects before I crawl under and unplug it.
What could it possibly affect?

It was a Ford tech rep that suggested it to a Ford tech who did it to his own car.

If it did throw a code then all you would have to do is plug it back in and clear the computer.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
What could it possibly affect?

It was a Ford tech rep that suggested it to a Ford tech who did it to his own car.

If it did throw a code then all you would have to do is plug it back in and clear the computer.
So I'm holding off, what's the big deal to you? Don't get offended that I'm not jumping under my car to unplug anything.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
What could it possibly affect?

It was a Ford tech rep that suggested it to a Ford tech who did it to his own car.

If it did throw a code then all you would have to do is plug it back in and clear the computer.
I am curious to see what the long-term effect of leaving an unplugged connector exposed or devise a way to close it off. This is why I personally would wait a bit more.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hawkeye18
Boy, there are a LOT of pissed-off Mustang owners over this transmission. Ford is not doing Chinese manufacturing's image any favors with this POS tranny. Frankly I don't know how they thought this would be a good idea. They were doing so well with not making idiotic decisions, too...

I'm curious what issues have risen regarding this transmission. If you are citing the clutch issue, that is nothing to do with the transmission, as this was a design flaw on Ford's part with the pedal/spring assembly.

Care to point out what has gone wrong with this transmission so far?
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by KonaBlue5.0
I'm curious what issues have risen regarding this transmission. If you are citing the clutch issue, that is nothing to do with the transmission, as this was a design flaw on Ford's part with the pedal/spring assembly.

Care to point out what has gone wrong with this transmission so far?
There are tons of other threads on all the Mustang forums all over the net talking about this, lets keep that discussion out of this thread.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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Well, on a related note, it's interesting that Ford made this is so easy. On the GM cars with this feature, wasn't a requirement some kind of inline resistor to disable it?
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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Yes, GM called their system CAGS (Computer Assisted Gear Selection). The resistor was necessary to keep the system from throwing codes when the solenoid was unplugged. The Skip Shift light on the dash still functioned even after the bypass but that was pretty easy to ignore since it only came on under the conditions that would have triggered a 1-4 shift.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 04:38 PM
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The PCM looks at the engine RPMs and the Prop Shaft Sensor on the tranny to determine whether to engage the Skip Shift Solenoid. All the computer knows is that it is energizing a circuit. It isn't monitoring what is or isn't happening at the solenoid. I guess the engineers figured, if the solenoid stops working, nobody will really care, so why throw an error.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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Put 50 miles on the car today. No skip shift and no MIL. I have cycled the car enough to where if a MIL was going to pop up, it would have by now.

If you want to get rid of the skip shift, and are on the fence about it, climb under there and unplug it already
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Lets keep this thread on subject, no need to get into any other areas.
While we're on the subject of getting off-topic. Did you guys know... I like turtles!

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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Skip Shift Bypass

Leaving the connector unplugged will throw a code, specifically DTC P0803.

Installing a 50watt 6ohm resistor across the unplugged connector will provide the same electrical load as the skip shift solenoid and will fake out the computer (no codes)

The resistor is the same used to place a parallel load on LED lights (see picture). They are less than 6 dollars on ebay. I soldered a few thin solid wires to the resistor ends, stuck the wires into the connector and shrink wrapped the whole thing to the end of the wiring harness. The light still illuminates but the lockout no longer interrupts shifts.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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Everything I read on that code indicates it is a chevy code.....hmmmmm.....others have not reported any codes from this plug being disconnected.
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Old Dec 18, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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I have drove my car hard and i have drove my car very very easy and I do not find any skip shift issues unless i want it to. I don't know what all the fuss is about. I think u guys are waisting your time.
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