Current Life Cycle Ends in 2011?
10/31/09, 03:41 PM
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I think they should have ditched the black plastic. Who cares if it makes the car look smaller if it looks like crap? Also they should have not pinched the corners and went straight across the back. Leave the concave deck panel yet have 3 seperate lights leaving a space in between each giving them a concave look putting the reverse lights somewhere in the bumper ala Camaro.
10/31/09, 06:56 PM
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Me too.
10/31/09, 09:04 PM
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I think there is only one way to settle this. As soon as I have time...or if someone else wants to, I think we need a survey thread on the 2010 design. Huh? huh?
10/31/09, 10:18 PM
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Go ahead, we've done it several times. Most people like it. It's the same 5-10 repeating over and over how much they don't.
11/1/09, 09:12 AM
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One thread in particular before TMS crashed was huge... and I think it was Tampa Bear? that really liked the '10 and posted pic after pic after pic of old and new stangs. I remember because his pics were huge files and my crapo Hughes internet wouldn't load the thread without refreshing a couple of times - each day that I would catch up on the thread. This was before the '10 hit the streets. That thread (and others) drew a lot of point/counter point with a lot of negs toward the '10 design - although most like the improved interior. A lot of the discussion was about the design cues - whether it was from bits of past Mustangs vs looking too Camaro in the front and Japa Euro in the rear with the curved butt and strange diaper on a Mustang. Even Ford guy 'groot' got involved briefly (before he requested his posts be withdrawn) because there was a lot of flack being thrown at Ford on the threads. Do you remember these?
Look, I'm not all fired up with my few comments, so don't read it that way. I'm just joining the discussion about the article's comment on the 10/11 'life cycle' and what that might mean. Maybe it doesn't mean anything and I am reading into it. If I made the decision to buy the '10 I would be extremely proud of my Mustang and wouldn't care what anyone else says. Just like how I feel about my decision to order my Bullitt.
Look, I'm not all fired up with my few comments, so don't read it that way. I'm just joining the discussion about the article's comment on the 10/11 'life cycle' and what that might mean. Maybe it doesn't mean anything and I am reading into it. If I made the decision to buy the '10 I would be extremely proud of my Mustang and wouldn't care what anyone else says. Just like how I feel about my decision to order my Bullitt.
11/1/09, 09:59 AM
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One thread in particular before TMS crashed was huge... and I think it was Tampa Bear? that really liked the '10 and posted pic after pic after pic of old and new stangs. I remember because his pics were huge files and my crapo Hughes internet wouldn't load the thread without refreshing a couple of times - each day that I would catch up on the thread. This was before the '10 hit the streets. That thread (and others) drew a lot of point/counter point with a lot of negs toward the '10 design - although most like the improved interior. A lot of the discussion was about the design cues - whether it was from bits of past Mustangs vs looking too Camaro in the front and Japa Euro in the rear with the curved butt and strange diaper on a Mustang. Even Ford guy 'groot' got involved briefly (before he requested his posts be withdrawn) because there was a lot of flack being thrown at Ford on the threads. Do you remember these?
Look, I'm not all fired up with my few comments, so don't read it that way. I'm just joining the discussion about the article's comment on the 10/11 'life cycle' and what that might mean. Maybe it doesn't mean anything and I am reading into it. If I made the decision to buy the '10 I would be extremely proud of my Mustang and wouldn't care what anyone else says. Just like how I feel about my decision to order my Bullitt.
Look, I'm not all fired up with my few comments, so don't read it that way. I'm just joining the discussion about the article's comment on the 10/11 'life cycle' and what that might mean. Maybe it doesn't mean anything and I am reading into it. If I made the decision to buy the '10 I would be extremely proud of my Mustang and wouldn't care what anyone else says. Just like how I feel about my decision to order my Bullitt.
Really, though, even if every single person perusing these forums were to unanimously say, "Hey, we hate the new Mustang," that in itself would not mean the new 'Stang is a flop (collectively, we hardly represent a fraction of the buying public). And I know the thread you're referring to and, again, there were several people who stood up for the car, saying they loved it. stangfoeva's right, too, in that we've had survey after survey asking those what they though about the new Mustang, and they were all in favor of the new design. I even remember a survey regarding the 2010's rear -- obviously, the most controversial aspect of the new design. The results were more positive than you might expect.
So, as stated several times before, just because you're the loudest, it doesn't necessarily mean you're in the majority, or right.
11/1/09, 10:00 AM
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One thread in particular before TMS crashed was huge... and I think it was Tampa Bear? that really liked the '10 and posted pic after pic after pic of old and new stangs. I remember because his pics were huge files and my crapo Hughes internet wouldn't load the thread without refreshing a couple of times - each day that I would catch up on the thread. This was before the '10 hit the streets. That thread (and others) drew a lot of point/counter point with a lot of negs toward the '10 design - although most like the improved interior. A lot of the discussion was about the design cues - whether it was from bits of past Mustangs vs looking too Camaro in the front and Japa Euro in the rear with the curved butt and strange diaper on a Mustang. Even Ford guy 'groot' got involved briefly (before he requested his posts be withdrawn) because there was a lot of flack being thrown at Ford on the threads. Do you remember these?
Look, I'm not all fired up with my few comments, so don't read it that way. I'm just joining the discussion about the article's comment on the 10/11 'life cycle' and what that might mean. Maybe it doesn't mean anything and I am reading into it. If I made the decision to buy the '10 I would be extremely proud of my Mustang and wouldn't care what anyone else says. Just like how I feel about my decision to order my Bullitt.
Look, I'm not all fired up with my few comments, so don't read it that way. I'm just joining the discussion about the article's comment on the 10/11 'life cycle' and what that might mean. Maybe it doesn't mean anything and I am reading into it. If I made the decision to buy the '10 I would be extremely proud of my Mustang and wouldn't care what anyone else says. Just like how I feel about my decision to order my Bullitt.
11/1/09, 10:21 AM
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Likewise, just because some '10 supporters are loud, doesn't make 'em right. I'll betcha a six pack the '10 rear end doesn't last long.
Its all good... we're all Mustang friends and that's most important.
Carry on.
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11/1/09, 11:23 AM
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Every time I see a 2010 Stang, I think it's a Lexus or some other foreign car until I get closer. You can't mistake the 05-09 Stang from a distance. Most people I run into say the same thing.
11/1/09, 01:39 PM
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11/1/09, 01:41 PM
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Right. But he did make a few comments defending the design after some not so complimentary comments from posters. One was to the effect that the front of the '10 was on the drawing board before the Camaro was released, so the Mustang did not copy the Camaro according to him. Whether that is accurate or not I cannot say.
Likewise, just because some '10 supporters are loud, doesn't make 'em right. I'll betcha a six pack the '10 rear end doesn't last long.
Its all good... we're all Mustang friends and that's most important.
Carry on.
Likewise, just because some '10 supporters are loud, doesn't make 'em right. I'll betcha a six pack the '10 rear end doesn't last long.
Its all good... we're all Mustang friends and that's most important.
Carry on.
11/2/09, 02:04 PM
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Exactly, think of who Ford is still in cahoots with at the Flatrock facility, but is suddenly uncomfortably distant from on a corporate level. The Ford-Mazda relationship apparently went cold very, very quickly following the Ford sell-off of a large portion of their stake in the brand. Given this, their rather cozy agreement with Mazda as relates to the Auto Alliance facility has to be uncomfortable now for various reasons. I have had the distinct feeling that Ford is looking for an excuse to get out of Flatrock without making more of a stink than necessary for some time now, and were I a betting man I would wager that we can expect to see Ford continue to distance itself from Mazda over the next several years.
Put more simply, I very seriously doubt that the rear end of any car has anything to do with this.
Put more simply, I very seriously doubt that the rear end of any car has anything to do with this.
11/2/09, 02:14 PM
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Why did Ford sell off their stake in Mazda anyway? Considering that the Duratec 4-cylinders and the MZR 4-cylinders are essentially the same engine, not to mention the fact that the current Fusion and Mazda 6 share the same basic platform, and the fact that the new-for-2010 Mazda 3 is essentially the second-generation Focus that is being sold over in Europe, I was under the impression that the 2 companies were, for lack of a better term, "joined at the hip".
Roger
11/2/09, 02:26 PM
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I think that pretty much sums it up.
11/2/09, 02:34 PM
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Why did Ford sell off their stake in Mazda anyway? Considering that the Duratec 4-cylinders and the MZR 4-cylinders are essentially the same engine, not to mention the fact that the current Fusion and Mazda 6 share the same basic platform, and the fact that the new-for-2010 Mazda 3 is essentially the second-generation Focus that is being sold over in Europe, I was under the impression that the 2 companies were, for lack of a better term, "joined at the hip".
