Car & Driver Lightning Lap 2011
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It kind of stinks that the V6 Camaro when equipped with W Speed rated tires ... std. on 2LT base and 1LT / 2LT with RS Pkg ... gets a bump in the speed limiter (145 MPH I think) but the V6 Mustang does not.
What is the point in a 160 MPH Speedo, if the limiter is set at 114 ??
Ford may as well given the V6 a 120 Speedo which is easier to read !!
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I bracket the Boss 302 on the fast side by the Corvette Grand Sport, which ran a 2:58 last year and has similar power, but better suspension and less weight. Obviously it should be faster than the GT, maybe even faster than the GT500 on that track (given the shifting issues they had w/ the GT500). So my guess would be something like 3:02 to 3:03. I would be amazed (but happy) if it broke the 3-minute barrier - that is some REAL fast company! Can't wait until next year to see what it does!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pan3N8qdyrE
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Maybe this is a dumb question, but since it is electronically limited does that it can be bypassed by reprogramming kind of like the way skip shift delete is done on many tunes?
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I read the magazine article and looked at the times through the various sections. I think they left a lot on the table with the Mustang GT. Why slower than the v6 on entry and exit? I'd like to see what the car would do with some better drivers than the C&D hacks.
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Hacks? LMAO. I suppose you could do better? Just so you know, many of the C&D writers have held competition licenses and have road raced competitively, I've seen some of them on track, and they (at least the ones I've seen) are not hacks.
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if given more time with each car im sure they could cut the times down a bit. Pretty dang good considering the number of different cars the driver drove in short succession...Every car is so different no way to get the extreme best time out of the car with a couple laps. The driver obviously has some skill to be a professional driver. Just like the people who talk about how bad some professional sports player is when last I checked we couldn't cut it where they are
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Yes the limiter can be electronically removed. However, IIRC these vehicles are supposed to be tested in the LL comparison as-delivered from the manufacturer with no modifications, electronic or otherwise. Show what the cars are capable of "out of the box".
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Which is fair enough, but it can sometimes distort relative performance between cars. For example, the CTS-V comes with Michlin PS2 tires, which I think maximizes the car's capabilities compared to similar cars that don't run PS2s. OTOH, there are multiple opinions about tires out there too, so never mind....
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Well hopefully with these V6 track results (as well as others in the last 8 months) Ford will at least consider "uping the speed limiter".
At the very least they could do it on the Performance Package model as it already has special computer tuning via the AdvanceTrac "Sport mode" that regular V6 models do no get.
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At the very least they could do it on the Performance Package model as it already has special computer tuning via the AdvanceTrac "Sport mode" that regular V6 models do no get.
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Since one of their comments on the V6 was
We have little doubt that it could have unseated the co–class-champ 2006 Nissan 350Z Track if the Ford hadn’t been equipped with a 114-mph governor, which the car banged into for more than 15 seconds per lap.
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Ah, got it.
Don't see why it's not possible to remove the speed limiter aftermarket if electronic tuning lets you alter just about everything else in the ECU (depending on tuner).
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Well hopefully with these V6 track results (as well as others in the last 8 months) Ford will at least consider "uping the speed limiter".
At the very least they could do it on the Performance Package model as it already has special computer tuning via the AdvanceTrac "Sport mode" that regular V6 models do no get.
Doug
At the very least they could do it on the Performance Package model as it already has special computer tuning via the AdvanceTrac "Sport mode" that regular V6 models do no get.
Doug
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In this two points mentioned about the GT, How can you solve both issues:
"The GT exhibits a little more body roll than the GT500, which makes the side-to-side-in-your-seat banging around less intense and more tolerable. Still, the GT would benefit greatly from a more heavily bolstered seat."
"The GT exhibits a little more body roll than the GT500, which makes the side-to-side-in-your-seat banging around less intense and more tolerable. Still, the GT would benefit greatly from a more heavily bolstered seat."
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V6 sounds like it could have been right up there with the GT if it didn't have the speed limited, at least from what we're seeing here. I do wonder though if they got everything out of the Mustangs, the GT actually did worse than the V6 on some of the stages. In one stage the GT actually did the worst in class.