AutoWeek Spy Shots
V6 Member
Joined: September 8, 2005
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Again my question is why does the V6 get the GT500 treatment and the GT gets just a bit of treatment, should be the other way around. Any good photoshoppers care to take out the coral and put some GT fogs in there for me?
Last edited by Xanadu; Sep 16, 2008 at 12:02 AM.
Legacy TMS Member
Joined: May 16, 2004
Posts: 5,206
Likes: 18
From: Bristol, TN
Agreed for purely amusement reasons. I love it when <---special model here ---> guys get thier panties in a twist when some feature shows up again on a more mundane or new SE down the road.
Still waiting for some group of Bullitt/Mach One/Shelby GT/GT500/Cobra guys to take the Blackjack route and sue Ford for devaluing thier investments with future model runs
Still waiting for some group of Bullitt/Mach One/Shelby GT/GT500/Cobra guys to take the Blackjack route and sue Ford for devaluing thier investments with future model runs
Bow Chica Bow Wow
TMS Staff
TMS Staff
Joined: January 29, 2004
Posts: 7,446
Likes: 12
From: Proudly in NJ...bite it FL
guess i was right with that opening on the lower bumper on my render
and these are definitly an intensional thing like lutz did with the camaro "uncover them"
and these are definitly an intensional thing like lutz did with the camaro "uncover them"
Bow Chica Bow Wow
TMS Staff
TMS Staff
Joined: January 29, 2004
Posts: 7,446
Likes: 12
From: Proudly in NJ...bite it FL
A basic rule of good car design is the proportion of wheels to body mass. Know how beachhouses on stilts look unsupported, like they can't possibly be held up ? ( apologies to any victims of Ike. ) Its the same thing on a car. If the wheels look overpowered by the body, it appears the cars don't have a solid footing ( called "stance" . ) This is why we all like bigger wheels on the car. It helps make it look smaller ( check out a Challenger SE on 18s vs. an SRT-8 on 20s )
Another trick used to hide body mass on modern cars is wrapping the lights ( both head and tailights )around the corners to hide how far the body sticks out from the wheels.This was not a very classic Mustang cue, so it wasn't done on the 2005 car. This made the rear fender look very long and "heavy". It also made the distance from tailamp to tailamp look wide from the rear, de-emphasizing the width of the rear track ( distance between rear wheels. )
Slicing off the rear corners of the 2010 allows you to wrap the rear lights as well as the surface that encircles the lamps. Stretching both of these around makes the rear fender look shorter in side view, but also makes the rear end look narrower in rear view than the fender lips and outside edges of the tires. Both of these actions emphasize the rear wheels, like very wide fenders ( or hips ). Since the designers couldn't widen the body or narrow the greenhouse, they needed to create the illusion of wide flares. This is what they were talking about to make it look smaller. Its really quite brilliant. ( and it was done way back in late 2005, before gas was $4 or even $3 a gallon, the fuel economy PR is just a coincidence. )
The black fascia at the back is another trick to reduce the visual weight of the body behind the rear wheels. It makes the rear bumper look smaller when there's actual reflective paint on the rest of it. I wouldn't paint this body color without adding some huge wheels in the back, otherwise it'll look like a baby with a full diaper....
This is why I really love the new rear end. Much more sculptural, but in a new way, and it will make the rear end look so much less heavy and blocky. Really well done.
Another trick used to hide body mass on modern cars is wrapping the lights ( both head and tailights )around the corners to hide how far the body sticks out from the wheels.This was not a very classic Mustang cue, so it wasn't done on the 2005 car. This made the rear fender look very long and "heavy". It also made the distance from tailamp to tailamp look wide from the rear, de-emphasizing the width of the rear track ( distance between rear wheels. )
Slicing off the rear corners of the 2010 allows you to wrap the rear lights as well as the surface that encircles the lamps. Stretching both of these around makes the rear fender look shorter in side view, but also makes the rear end look narrower in rear view than the fender lips and outside edges of the tires. Both of these actions emphasize the rear wheels, like very wide fenders ( or hips ). Since the designers couldn't widen the body or narrow the greenhouse, they needed to create the illusion of wide flares. This is what they were talking about to make it look smaller. Its really quite brilliant. ( and it was done way back in late 2005, before gas was $4 or even $3 a gallon, the fuel economy PR is just a coincidence. )
The black fascia at the back is another trick to reduce the visual weight of the body behind the rear wheels. It makes the rear bumper look smaller when there's actual reflective paint on the rest of it. I wouldn't paint this body color without adding some huge wheels in the back, otherwise it'll look like a baby with a full diaper....
This is why I really love the new rear end. Much more sculptural, but in a new way, and it will make the rear end look so much less heavy and blocky. Really well done.
I agree with everything you said but have one comment on this.
The black out on the lower rear bumper gives the "full diaper" look regardless of body color from the side view because it is actually sticking out further that the bumper surface. You are dead on correct if you look at it dead on from the back but go around the side and the idea falls apart. If they had made it flush with a styling line seperating the black from the body color the effect would have been correct from all angles as it is now it looks dopey and fussy in my opinion not to mention full diapery (is that a word?). People were moaning about how thick the Challys bumper is..geeze this thing is huge now.
I also am not a fan of this clipped corners look the car has, the 1999 had a similar look but it was done far more effectly. I think they clipped to much off here at least from what i can see (that zebra camo does an amazingly good job)
I do think the lack of bumper shelf is a tragedy as well but these are all my personal opnions so there ya go.
Last edited by burningman; Sep 16, 2008 at 11:42 AM.
Legacy TMS Member
Joined: February 13, 2006
Posts: 2,523
Likes: 150
best description i've heard yet!
Bullitt Member
Joined: May 13, 2007
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
From: Jupiter, FL
Now the question is, if I get a 2010 Stang, what song should I first play on the radio? "Mustang Sally" is the standard, but would it be wrong to play a song from a band called Bang Camaro in a Mustang? I mean, "Push Push Lady Lightning" is thirteen different kinds of awesome.
... maybe some Soundgarden...
... maybe some Soundgarden...
Tasca Super Boss 429 Member
Joined: February 1, 2004
Posts: 3,751
Likes: 0
Now the question is, if I get a 2010 Stang, what song should I first play on the radio? "Mustang Sally" is the standard, but would it be wrong to play a song from a band called Bang Camaro in a Mustang? I mean, "Push Push Lady Lightning" is thirteen different kinds of awesome.
... maybe some Soundgarden...
... maybe some Soundgarden...