another 12.7 stock run
NICE!
but on the street the pirellis will make a difference if you had a chance to drive them back to back it would be noticeable
the 3.73s will shine for somebody who nails down the launch and also when rolling on the throttle when already moving
higher (numerically) gear in a car at these elevated power levels becomes tricky because of traction but overall if you have traction and skills the end result is better acceleration from all ends
so i don't think anyone is getting duped, it was offered from the factory and i'm sure Ford did a lot of testing which resulted in the final gear offerings matched to the internal trans ratios, this car was built to finish the 1/4 mile on the limiter with 3.73s in 4th gear besting the camaroSS period
Im still putting my money all stock on....3.55 for the Showroom Stock Record. The 3.73 will be better in Summer Air.
The 3.73 is either going to have to ride the limiter the last 100' or go to 5th. Their is not enough traction to take advantage of its superior torque multiplication off the line. It hits the limiter at 110 mph trap (112 mph finish line).
3.55 is going to be right at the 7000 rpm redline in 4th in "Mineshaft" AIr.
3.31 is going to be turning 6500 rpm in 4th.
In my opinion the 3.31 will be less than a 1/10 off the pace compared to 3.55. The 3.73 might be able to run with the 3.55 despite laying down the last 100' without a launch advantage but I will have to see it.
If 3.55 and Pirelli All-Seasons are good enough to turn 12.8 in a 4.6L with CAI/Tune why do you act suprised when a car with a 12.115 (3.66 x 3.31) vs 11.999 (3.38 x 3.55) launch ratio and at least 80 more bhp runs a 12.7?
Im not so sure I believe the 13.0 @ 116 mph run by Motorweek in the 3.31 Convertible or if it was run on a track versus magazine timing equipment. If it was run on 5th wheel timing equipment that gave actual finish speed that would be 114 mph trap so looks more creditable. All the Magazine Coupes have been 3.73 so they have been having to shift to 5th so they are only getting 110-112 mph traps.
The 3.73 is either going to have to ride the limiter the last 100' or go to 5th. Their is not enough traction to take advantage of its superior torque multiplication off the line. It hits the limiter at 110 mph trap (112 mph finish line).
3.55 is going to be right at the 7000 rpm redline in 4th in "Mineshaft" AIr.
3.31 is going to be turning 6500 rpm in 4th.
In my opinion the 3.31 will be less than a 1/10 off the pace compared to 3.55. The 3.73 might be able to run with the 3.55 despite laying down the last 100' without a launch advantage but I will have to see it.
If 3.55 and Pirelli All-Seasons are good enough to turn 12.8 in a 4.6L with CAI/Tune why do you act suprised when a car with a 12.115 (3.66 x 3.31) vs 11.999 (3.38 x 3.55) launch ratio and at least 80 more bhp runs a 12.7?
Im not so sure I believe the 13.0 @ 116 mph run by Motorweek in the 3.31 Convertible or if it was run on a track versus magazine timing equipment. If it was run on 5th wheel timing equipment that gave actual finish speed that would be 114 mph trap so looks more creditable. All the Magazine Coupes have been 3.73 so they have been having to shift to 5th so they are only getting 110-112 mph traps.
Last edited by Gene K; May 16, 2010 at 08:46 AM.
Tirerack quotes 763 rpm (But they also list the MB OEM Tire as the Ford OEM. Im not sure thats correct.) Ive also seen quoaes of 769.5 rpm for the Brembo Package Tires.
Using the hard limiter and the 763 rpm figure I get 111.8 mph as where the limiter cuts in. So to run 111 mph you basically would have to be against the limiter for the entire speed trap.
I really would like to know Mike's 60' and Trap Speed for that 12.77 run in the "Stock Order" Premium Coupe w/ Base 3.31 Gear and 18" All-Season Tires.
Last edited by Gene K; May 16, 2010 at 11:58 AM.
Helps from welding nice hot rubber to your paint and having to scrape it off after burning out, I've learned the hard way.




