Airaid CAI and BAMA Perf Tune - New car!!
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Airaid CAI and BAMA Perf Tune - New car!!
Just installed the Airaid CAI and Bama Performance tune (Thanks to American Muscle for get service on this). Real simple install in about an hour for everything (only needed a screw driver and 10mm socket!)
What a different car to drive, smooth delivery of power through the RPM, throttle has no 'dead' spots, such a pleasure to drive just wondering why it couldn't have been like this from factory?
Can't wait for the weekend to go play a little with it
What a different car to drive, smooth delivery of power through the RPM, throttle has no 'dead' spots, such a pleasure to drive just wondering why it couldn't have been like this from factory?
Can't wait for the weekend to go play a little with it
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I'm happy for you about your mods and tune. I'm also amazed about the added peformance the tunes make. I only run my 'factory tune' when i have to go to the dealer for warranty work .
#6
Originally Posted by jokerstars
I dunno how you guys mod the powertrain on a new car and not worry about warranty. New engine model years always have the most problems. I'll do this after my warranty expires.
What would be the difference? Wait the 3 years and let's say that you do, then hypothetically your engine fails AFTER the 3 years, then what? Your screwed. Why not just get the tune while it's UNDER warranty this way anything happens you will be covered as long as you know what your doing.
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What would be the difference? Wait the 3 years and let's say that you do, then hypothetically your engine fails AFTER the 3 years, then what? Your screwed. Why not just get the tune while it's UNDER warranty this way anything happens you will be covered as long as you know what your doing.
#9
On another forum the doom-sayers were challenged to come up with one real-life example of a denied warranty claim due to a CAI/tune combo - they were of course unable to do so.
The warranty denied thing is an urban myth that just won't die...
The warranty denied thing is an urban myth that just won't die...
#10
Originally Posted by MRGTX
If your engine failure is related to the tune, Ford isn't obligated to cover it.
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1.) An absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
2.) If you blow your engine up because you were messing with it and turn to Ford to fix your mistake, check your sense of morality.
3.) Can you find an example where someone damaged their engine because of aftermarket parts and had the repair covered under warranty? If so, did they make an effort conceal the modifications or did they fess up?
The bottom line is that damage caused by aftermarket parts is not covered. If they choose to cover it, then you owe them a favor. They're going above and beyond the original agreement.
Proving the source of the damage isn't always straight forward but if you blew a connecting rod while you happened to be running a tune that includes modifying the air:fuel ratio...William of Occam will have your explanation.
2.) If you blow your engine up because you were messing with it and turn to Ford to fix your mistake, check your sense of morality.
3.) Can you find an example where someone damaged their engine because of aftermarket parts and had the repair covered under warranty? If so, did they make an effort conceal the modifications or did they fess up?
The bottom line is that damage caused by aftermarket parts is not covered. If they choose to cover it, then you owe them a favor. They're going above and beyond the original agreement.
Proving the source of the damage isn't always straight forward but if you blew a connecting rod while you happened to be running a tune that includes modifying the air:fuel ratio...William of Occam will have your explanation.
#13
Sorry... I agree. No need for the debate here.
Despite what I said above, I will put a tune in my car at some point too... but I refuse to believe that Ford would be okay with it if I blow my motor and come crying to them with a warranty claim just because nobody came forward and publicly admitted their own stupidity and subsequent claim denial by Ford.
Just know the risks and accept responsibility. That's all.
Despite what I said above, I will put a tune in my car at some point too... but I refuse to believe that Ford would be okay with it if I blow my motor and come crying to them with a warranty claim just because nobody came forward and publicly admitted their own stupidity and subsequent claim denial by Ford.
Just know the risks and accept responsibility. That's all.
#14
Sorry... I agree. No need for the debate here.
Despite what I said above, I will put a tune in my car at some point too... but I refuse to believe that Ford would be okay with it if I blow my motor and come crying to them with a warranty claim just because nobody came forward and publicly admitted their own stupidity and subsequent claim denial by Ford.
Despite what I said above, I will put a tune in my car at some point too... but I refuse to believe that Ford would be okay with it if I blow my motor and come crying to them with a warranty claim just because nobody came forward and publicly admitted their own stupidity and subsequent claim denial by Ford.
I doubt you'll blow your engine with a tune from American Muscle(or any of the big tuners). They have their reputation on the line. They are very well established and if someone had a bad experience it would surely find it's way onto the internet. Bad news travels fast.
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I doubt you'll blow your engine with a tune from American Muscle(or any of the big tuners). They have their reputation on the line. They are very well established and if someone had a bad experience it would surely find it's way onto the internet. Bad news travels fast.
#16
Originally Posted by falhulk
You might not blow it immediately but a respected vendor here (I will not anme him, he can comment if he wishes) posted that engine longevity will likely be cut in half with even just a CAI and tune. His quote was 50k miles.
There are so many mustang owners from all years with mods and tunes with over 100k miles without blown motors.
If tunes were causing blow motors at 50k, you would hear about it all over the forums.
#17
Did this person say what would fail prematurely in the motor?
Messing with air:fuel ratios can result in lean conditions which means pings, knocks (mostly prevented by the knock sensor unless that is affected by the tune somehow??...) or serious detonation events which can obvioulsy break critical engine parts.
...or less worrisome, rich condition that can carbon-up combustion chambers, foul plugs and damage catalytic converters (and waste a bunch of gas).
Raising the red line might be more of an issue since this puts drastically more strain on everything, especially the crank and connecting rods.
I'd love to learn more. If there is anything legit behind what this unnamed tuner has said, my car will possibly remain stock.
Last edited by MRGTX; 4/15/11 at 10:55 AM.
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Do you mean you think I made it up or the vendor is wrong? Not sure what you meant.
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Can you point us in the direction of that discussion??
Did this person say what would fail prematurely in the motor?
Messing with air:fuel ratios can result in lean conditions which means pings, knocks (mostly prevented by the knock sensor unless that is affected by the tune somehow??...) or serious detonation events which can obvioulsy break critical engine parts.
...or less worrisome, rich condition that can carbon-up combustion chambers, foul plugs and damage catalytic converters (and waste a bunch of gas).
Raising the red line might be more of an issue since this puts drastically more strain on everything, especially the crank and connecting rods.
I'd love to learn more. If there is anything legit behind what this unnamed tuner has said, my car will possibly remain stock.
Did this person say what would fail prematurely in the motor?
Messing with air:fuel ratios can result in lean conditions which means pings, knocks (mostly prevented by the knock sensor unless that is affected by the tune somehow??...) or serious detonation events which can obvioulsy break critical engine parts.
...or less worrisome, rich condition that can carbon-up combustion chambers, foul plugs and damage catalytic converters (and waste a bunch of gas).
Raising the red line might be more of an issue since this puts drastically more strain on everything, especially the crank and connecting rods.
I'd love to learn more. If there is anything legit behind what this unnamed tuner has said, my car will possibly remain stock.