2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old May 7, 2010 | 10:50 AM
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From the 2011 owner's manual, it is Motorcraft Specialty Orange Engine Coolant, not Dexcool
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Old May 7, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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However, apparently it DOES contain the same 2-EHA chemical that Dexcool does... which is known to eat hoses and gaskets.





http://www.imcool.com/articles/antif...l2007Part2.php
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Old May 7, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Come to think of it, my friends 98 LS1 had a TSB for the water pump gaskets because they were paper. 99-02 motors were upgraded with metal gaskets from the factory. We replaced his & havent had a problem since. Aluminum motors also run at higher temps. Seems paper gaskets on motors these days are obsolete.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 11:49 AM
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I'm more worried about the hoses breaking down, and the resulting effect on the engine.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeejolts
I'm more worried about the hoses breaking down, and the resulting effect on the engine.
Given the hoses have the stainless braiding, maybe they are aftermarket, and the material used isn't compatible with the new coolant. If the OEM hoses looked like the ones in the photo, there would be TSB's all over the place.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 12:24 PM
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Let's panic about another issue that we probably won't see for years!

Seriously fellas, the "sky is falling" every time someone finds a minor change is getting a bit old.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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Why not prevent the problem instead of seeing it in a few years? Antifreeze and distilled water are cheap. Engine problems are not.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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do you honestly believe they are going to put something in that is going TO HARM YOUR MOTOR AND CAUSE FORD A HUGE PILE OF GRIEF??? Have faith, Ford is building outstanding cars...

I would love to see some of the engineers read this thread.....and see their response.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by todd03blown
do you honestly believe they are going to put something in that is going TO HARM YOUR MOTOR AND CAUSE FORD A HUGE PILE OF GRIEF??? Have faith, Ford is building outstanding cars...

I would love to see some of the engineers read this thread.....and see their response.
Exactly. Too much panic right now because people aren't getting their cars. It really is getting old.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by todd03blown
do you honestly believe they are going to put something in that is going TO HARM YOUR MOTOR AND CAUSE FORD A HUGE PILE OF GRIEF??? Have faith, Ford is building outstanding cars...

I would love to see some of the engineers read this thread.....and see their response.
The Ford engineers just called me. Said I should post this:
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Old May 7, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by corvettedreamin
The Ford engineers just called me. Said I should post this:
LMFAO!
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Old May 7, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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With all the reliability and extended-run testing that's been done on the Coyote, I don't think this is going to be a problem.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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Use coffee..it'll add 2hp too!!
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Old May 7, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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dexcool works fine. In all my other (GM) cars all the way back to 1965 I used dexcool for 20 years with no issues.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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dexcool works fine. In all my other (GM) cars all the way back to 1965 I used dexcool for 20 years with no issues.
idk... even my 08 manual says:

Mixing Motorcraft Specialty Orange Engine Coolant or any orange-colored extended life product such as DEX-COOL brand with your factory filled coolant can result in degraded corrosion protection.



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Old May 7, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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Exactly. Too much panic right now because people aren't getting their cars. It really is getting old.
Your absolutly right it is getting old.Imagine if they delivered the cars this would all go away.Nobody would even have a discussion about this if they got their cars.

SHIP MY CAR ALREADY YOUR MUCKING IT UP LETTING IT SIT (RAMP 51)
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Old May 7, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeejolts
I just noticed that the new 5.0 comes with red coolant. Is it Dexcool?

I recall hearing before that the Dexcool is harder on your engine that the regular green coolant. Specifically, I have heard of water pump and head gasket failures related to its use. The last thing I want in a high compression engine is coolant that compromises the head gaskets.

If this stuff is indeed Dexcool, then I think my first order of business will be a complete coolant flush. Any thoughts?
Here is what the Ford Shop Manual Says for 2011 Mustang It says Orange. I was thinking red as well. The Orange was used in the Last model Cougars & Electric Rangers. HMMM!

Enjoy the Cooling Flow charts!

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Specialty Orange Engine Coolant with Bittering Agent





Orange-colored, longer-life, ethylene glycol-based, engine coolant for use in gasoline and diesel engines








Provides year-round antifreeze, anti-boil and corrosion protection








A 50/50 mixture of coolant and distilled water provides freeze protection down to -34°F (-37°C) and boiling protection up to 265°F (129°C)








Use only when specified. Do not use this product in systems originally equipped with any green-colored, conventional engine coolant such as MotorcraftŽ Premium Engine Coolant, meeting Ford Specification ESE-M97B44-A, or with the yellow-colored, longer-life MotorcraftŽ Premium Gold Engine Coolant, meeting Ford Specification WSS-M97B51-A1, or with the dark green-colored MotorcraftŽ Specialty Green Engine Coolant, meeting Ford Specification WSS-M97B55-A








Meets the requirements of WSS-M97B44-D, GM 6277M and ASTM D 3306




Compatible with DEX-COOLŽ engine coolants
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Old May 7, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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I suggest we all cancel our orders and slit our wrists. It's the only sane thing to do.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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I suggest we all cancel our orders and slit our wrists. It's the only sane thing to do.

You mean I posted all this stuff for Nothing! That's it I'm right there with you!
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Old May 7, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Radiohead
I suggest we all cancel our orders and slit our wrists. It's the only sane thing to do.
I went to public school. . . in which order should I do this?
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