5.0 power numbers leaked? 400hp, 360tq, 6 speed.
4/9/08, 07:51 PM
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Some of his info posted in that thread is a bit suspect. I don't believe the curb weight he posted. Secondly, why would Ford's lawyers allow him to post "insider" information?
4/9/08, 08:16 PM
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As long as he isn't an employee and he doesn't say how or where he got the info there is nothing they can do about it. For everybody in this thread who doesn't know who Fourcam is and or isn't familiar with his history take note of this. His info has thus far never been wrong, and when I say never I mean that literally. Never wrong, not even once. He provided info on the GT500, 3.5L V6, and 3.7L V6 and was correct down to the smallest detail in regard to all three. He was also throwing around the numbers we are now hearing from Ford regarding 3.5L Ecoboost power output long before Ford ever released them. When he gives information on a Ford product you can bet the farm on it.
4/9/08, 08:30 PM
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As long as he isn't an employee and he doesn't say how or where he got the info there is nothing they can do about it. For everybody in this thread who doesn't know who Fourcam is and or isn't familiar with his history take note of this. His info has thus far never been wrong, and when I say never I mean that literally. Never wrong, not even once. He provided info on the GT500, 3.5L V6, and 3.7L V6 and was correct down to the smallest detail in regard to all three. He was also throwing around the numbers we are now hearing from Ford regarding 3.5L Ecoboost power output long before Ford ever released them. When he gives information on a Ford product you can bet the farm on it.
Anyways, Ford's own internal presentation shows that Ford is going to reduce weight so I find it interesting that he claims that much of a weight gain.
4/9/08, 08:40 PM
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Remember though, this is just a refreshed model of the current S197 chassis, so there isn't a whole lot they can do to save weight. Real weight savings can only come with a redesigned chassis that can take advantage of lighter materials.
4/9/08, 08:44 PM
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Ford has a lot of money they can throw around and ruthless corporate lawyers. If I was Ford, I wouldn't want the competition knowing all the minor details of upcoming models this far in advanace. I am sure Ford doesn't like their proprietary being released
Anyways, Ford's own internal presentation shows that Ford is going to reduce weight so I find it interesting that he claims that much of a weight gain.
Anyways, Ford's own internal presentation shows that Ford is going to reduce weight so I find it interesting that he claims that much of a weight gain.
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4/9/08, 09:26 PM
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Well figuring if it does weigh between 3500-3600..thats NOT bad considering it'll have a bigger engine (with 4v's now..not 3) and a 6speed manual (and probably auto)
His info is always correct as the current state of affairs.
Its not that he's been wrong in the past, its that things have changed.
He's really good at keeping people in the loop and throwing some hope our way
His info is always correct as the current state of affairs.
Its not that he's been wrong in the past, its that things have changed.
He's really good at keeping people in the loop and throwing some hope our way
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4/9/08, 09:34 PM
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Fourcam is, in me experience, always correct, but he is also typically a little conservative. So in essence you could be right that the weight numbers may be a bit high. For example he has hinted that the 400hp/360lb-ft of torque is a minimum number in the past and that actual numbers could be a little higher......the same could very well apply to curb weight. That is one of the great things about his info, numbres may actually prove to be a little bit better but they are never worse than he claims
Ford is committed to reducing curb weight, but I actually think the GT will gain a minor bit of weight. I was thinking more along the lines of 3475ish
4/10/08, 04:47 AM
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http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...d.php?t=477049
I know this guy gets good info. He's pretty much saying it's set.
I know this guy gets good info. He's pretty much saying it's set.
That's them, but you're a few months late..
4/10/08, 06:34 AM
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My gut feeling is that the new GDI V8 in the Mustang GT will be around 350hp. But, Ford could boost it up to 400hp depending on what the Camaro does.
I think after that decision is made, the cards will fall into place with the SE's.
I think after that decision is made, the cards will fall into place with the SE's.
4/10/08, 08:47 AM
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Hopefully, Ford will see it fit to upgrade the brakes. I'd like to see larger rotors front/rear for the GT. Heck, using the old 13" Cobra setup would be a nice upgrade!
4/10/08, 09:25 AM
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That's a deal breaker for me. Ford has done about all they can with the current SRA rear. A watts link would help, but an IRS rear is still better.
Hopefully, Ford will see it fit to upgrade the brakes. I'd like to see larger rotors front/rear for the GT. Heck, using the old 13" Cobra setup would be a nice upgrade!
Hopefully, Ford will see it fit to upgrade the brakes. I'd like to see larger rotors front/rear for the GT. Heck, using the old 13" Cobra setup would be a nice upgrade!
4/10/08, 09:36 AM
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Ford has a lot of money they can throw around and ruthless corporate lawyers. If I was Ford, I wouldn't want the competition knowing all the minor details of upcoming models this far in advanace. I am sure Ford doesn't like their proprietary being released
Anyways, Ford's own internal presentation shows that Ford is going to reduce weight so I find it interesting that he claims that much of a weight gain.
Anyways, Ford's own internal presentation shows that Ford is going to reduce weight so I find it interesting that he claims that much of a weight gain.
4/10/08, 09:50 AM
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I've worked with reps from Ford, GM & Chrysler and Ford is the most secretive. Ford acts like its the "Cold War".
We ridiculed both GM & Chrysler the past couple of years because they continue to show prototype Camaro's & Challengers, but it was the right thing for them to do.
They have stolen some of the Mustangs swagger. Ford should do the same and show the next generation Mustang prototype in 2010.
We ridiculed both GM & Chrysler the past couple of years because they continue to show prototype Camaro's & Challengers, but it was the right thing for them to do.
They have stolen some of the Mustangs swagger. Ford should do the same and show the next generation Mustang prototype in 2010.
4/10/08, 10:12 AM
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I've worked with reps from Ford, GM & Chrysler and Ford is the most secretive. Ford acts like its the "Cold War".
We ridiculed both GM & Chrysler the past couple of years because they continue to show prototype Camaro's & Challengers, but it was the right thing for them to do.
They have stolen some of the Mustangs swagger. Ford should do the same and show the next generation Mustang prototype in 2010.
We ridiculed both GM & Chrysler the past couple of years because they continue to show prototype Camaro's & Challengers, but it was the right thing for them to do.
They have stolen some of the Mustangs swagger. Ford should do the same and show the next generation Mustang prototype in 2010.
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4/10/08, 11:28 AM
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I said to show the next generation Mustang(2013?) in 2010. But, I understand what you are saying. The same logic would apply.
But, Mustang sales were still strong in 2003 & 2004, and everybody knew the redesign was coming in 2005.
But, Mustang sales were still strong in 2003 & 2004, and everybody knew the redesign was coming in 2005.
4/10/08, 11:34 AM
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4/10/08, 11:59 AM
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It has to be timed right..
It can allow people who may be sitting on the fence to buy the current model and push up sales,
it can also have the reverse affect and have them wait for the newer version.
Although most people have no idea the power increases and such are coming.
It can allow people who may be sitting on the fence to buy the current model and push up sales,
it can also have the reverse affect and have them wait for the newer version.
Although most people have no idea the power increases and such are coming.