2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

24,000 miles-----motor done--need advice

Old Oct 5, 2014 | 08:02 PM
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Ouch!! Pretty scored. My main bearing wasn't scored. He just said it was out of spec. Go figure..
Yeah it is!! When I spoke with the tech's Saturday one of them mentioned that 5.0 shortblock's may be on back order. Originally they were expecting a Tuesday arrival date, but it may not happen. We'll see...

I just read your thread in the warranty section. You get your car back yet? If so how's it running? O and by the way, great additional mods!!
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Old Oct 5, 2014 | 08:19 PM
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Yeah it is!! When I spoke with the tech's Saturday one of them mentioned that 5.0 shortblock's may be on back order. Originally they were expecting a Tuesday arrival date, but it may not happen. We'll see... I just read your thread in the warranty section. You get your car back yet? If so how's it running? O and by the way, great additional mods!!
Well the car gets most of the mods done this week but I'm on vacation for another week. So I have not driven the car since 3rd week in Sept. I could have picked it up but I wanted to mods done so I told them to take there time and double check everything. It has been like hell on my wallet leaving it there. I just keep ordering parts and The Mod shop keeps accepting. Lol.. I wonder if Tasca gets special treatment for warranty parts? They had my short block in 3 days. Not trying to rub it in but they never mentioned anything about back order. Thanks for the comment on mods. It should be pretty cool when I get it back. I'll be sure to post updates on warranty work and mods.

Hope yours works out well and is done quick.

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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 04:13 PM
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Looks like they were not oiled properly at all. Sucks that a failure like that happened so quick.
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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Priceless
Yeah it is!! When I spoke with the tech's Saturday one of them mentioned that 5.0 shortblock's may be on back order. Originally they were expecting a Tuesday arrival date, but it may not happen. We'll see...

I just read your thread in the warranty section. You get your car back yet? If so how's it running? O and by the way, great additional mods!!
Glad to learn your dealer is handling this for you, Priceless. If they parts needed are on back order let me know and PM me with your VIN, dealer, mileage, full name, and best daytime number.

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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandon@fattysmotorsports
Looks like they were not oiled properly at all. Sucks that a failure like that happened so quick.
Yeah that was kind of the thought I was going with after discussing this back and forth with so many people over the past few days. The mechanic is thinking slightly different though. He is thinking something may of slipped into the block and destroyed rod one, then moved to 5. I am going to try my best and not stress over it. At the end of the day I'm happy as long as everything is repaired well and the issue does not present itself again. I have faith in the mechanic though. He seemed pretty vested into making sure the car would be taken care of. He wanted to be sure he could see the replacement through himself, and touched base with me on the timing of the repair. I also appreciated that he took the time to go over everything and listened to my concerns and crazy ranting.

I also decided to replace the clutch. I went with the Exedy clutch, and I also decided to upgrade the clutch line with a stainless braided line.

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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 09:30 PM
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Glad to learn your dealer is handling this for you, Priceless. If they parts needed are on back order let me know and PM me with your VIN, dealer, mileage, full name, and best daytime number.

Deysha
Thanks for chiming in Deysha. Actually the block made it in yesterday. We are just awaiting the new clutch I ordered(will be in tomorrow) and then they can proceed.

I do however need to speak with you regarding another issue with the aforementioned Mustang regarding peeling/ flacking paint. I will send you pics and supporting information tomorrow. Thank you.
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Old Oct 8, 2014 | 06:55 AM
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Thanks for chiming in Deysha. Actually the block made it in yesterday. We are just awaiting the new clutch I ordered(will be in tomorrow) and then they can proceed.

I do however need to speak with you regarding another issue with the aforementioned Mustang regarding peeling/ flacking paint. I will send you pics and supporting information tomorrow. Thank you.
No problem, Priceless. Make sure you also address it with your dealer. When you PM me, please add your VIN, dealer, mileage, full name, and best daytime number.

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Old Oct 8, 2014 | 07:49 AM
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Looks like they got it before this happened.
https://themustangsource.com/forums/...update-532315/





That would be what is left of #1 and #5 after 6300 miles. First oil change was about 3 months prior. Complete engine replaced, just put 1000 miles on it and running smooth. Still waiting for report from Ford on what caused it.


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https://www.dropbox.com/sc/s7jhfqkpd2o4bd3/AAC7xJPfqtakUuGzPCRzwyf4a

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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 04:29 PM
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I figured i'd provide a quick update as I just received my Stang back earlier this week.

At any rate the motor is running great. I'm not sure if it was my mind playing games with me, or just having not driven her in a while but initially when I got the car back the whole car just felt loose, raw, unweildy and foreign. As time went on through the week she feels just like normal, if not a bit more powerful. The jury is still out on the latter as I haven't really pushed it as I was advised to break in the new motor for 500 miles. Any suggestions? I was just advised to take it easy and change the oil at 500. I hope I can add that many miles before the snow hits and she sits. Below are some positive and negative experiances i've had through this all.

Positive experiences:
(1)My dealer Van Bortel Ford. Initially I felt as I was not being communicated to very well after telling me the motor was done but not really providing many answers. A few phone calls and a trip over to them changed my mind. They communicated well. Staff was responsive and somewhat sympathetic to my problem. I spoke with the one and only mechanic working on my car quite extensively. The guy was well respected, a previous 5.0 owner, and layed everything out honestly. That is all I wanted. We also talked about modding, his experiance with #8 issues(though not related), and what he thought I should do. Cool guy.

On top of that, and most importantly Van Bortel worked out an paint issue that Ford service was not willing to. Thank you. Considering you sell more than just Ford, you gained a customer for life.

(2) You guys....thanks for all the suggestions, appreciated them.

Negative experiences:

(1)Unfortunately my experiance with Ford Service and my paint issue. I initially brought the car in primarily for my paint peeling in my door sills and a noise that I thought was a loose exhaust but ended up being my motor. As soon as I dropped it off and showed the dealer they started prepping me for how long it would be gone away at the body shop. To them it was a clear defect. From the picture of the paint peeling you can see it is quite extensive. My car only has 24,000 miles on it. Ford said that it was from my feet. The location of the peeling and how it started though made me contest. Number one, I rarely run my feet across that area. Number two, it started as a white line, as though the door was constantly rubbing against something. I took this up with Deysha at Ford service and mentioned how my dealer was surpised they said No. She checked and told me that Ford found no defect and to go to my dealer to overturn if they had proof. I spoke with my dealer and they said they have tried to go through Ford before on things like this and they typically end up to no avail. They did however say that they would work something out. In the end they worked with me and covered a very large portion of the cost to have it repaired. Though this has never happened to me in the end I could be wrong. This may not of been defective paint or something from the door rubbing up against it, and the football cleats that I wear everyday to drive destroyed the paint. But i'm 32, have purchased three new cars as of yet, and will probably purchase more. Van bortel gained a customer, Ford lost one.


(2) I ordered a Exedy clutch, SR clutch line, and floor mats from American Muscle. They provided a delivery date with their free shipping(nice!!) and I had everything shipped directly to the dealer. I told the dealership when the items would arrive, so they started the warranty work to coincide with the expected delivery date. In the next day or two as expected everthing arrived except for the clutch line. That sucked as the dealer was putting in the clutch and clutch line for free, as everthing was already torn apart and had to be put back together no matter what. After speaking with the dealer they had to keep working, so I was going to be out a little money for the install of the line if it took them a while. Was a little heated that AM had stated a date of delivery but had chose other shipping methods for the clutch line. They should indicate this... I would of told the dealer a different date. This all didn't matter though. During install the clutch line kept popping out after the tech installed it and was checking it. He said he played with it numerous times and everytime after the install it would pop out after pressing on the clutch a few different times...Anyone else have this issue? So the clutch line ended up never getting installed but costed me money... Will be contacting AM for refund and hopefully compensation for the labor costs.

...pics wont upload. Will try later..

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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 04:50 PM
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Here is a photo of the door sill. Sorry so close, i had to make the picture smaller to be able to post it.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 04:52 PM
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Woah!!! So happy that didn't happen. But you do have the peace of mind knowing you have a complete new motor swapped in!!

Originally Posted by cobrajg
Looks like they got it before this happened.
https://themustangsource.com/forums/...update-532315/





That would be what is left of #1 and #5 after 6300 miles. First oil change was about 3 months prior. Complete engine replaced, just put 1000 miles on it and running smooth. Still waiting for report from Ford on what caused it.


More pics:
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/s7jhfqkpd2o4bd3/AAC7xJPfqtakUuGzPCRzwyf4a

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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 11:11 PM
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I figured i'd provide a quick update as I just received my Stang back earlier this week.

At any rate the motor is running great. I'm not sure if it was my mind playing games with me, or just having not driven her in a while but initially when I got the car back the whole car just felt loose, raw, unweildy and foreign. As time went on through the week she feels just like normal, if not a bit more powerful. The jury is still out on the latter as I haven't really pushed it as I was advised to break in the new motor for 500 miles. Any suggestions? I was just advised to take it easy and change the oil at 500. I hope I can add that many miles before the snow hits and she sits. Below are some positive and negative experiances i've had through this all.

Positive experiences:
(1)My dealer Van Bortel Ford. Initially I felt as I was not being communicated to very well after telling me the motor was done but not really providing many answers. A few phone calls and a trip over to them changed my mind. They communicated well. Staff was responsive and somewhat sympathetic to my problem. I spoke with the one and only mechanic working on my car quite extensively. The guy was well respected, a previous 5.0 owner, and layed everything out honestly. That is all I wanted. We also talked about modding, his experiance with #8 issues(though not related), and what he thought I should do. Cool guy.

On top of that, and most importantly Van Bortel worked out an paint issue that Ford service was not willing to. Thank you. Considering you sell more than just Ford, you gained a customer for life.

(2) You guys....thanks for all the suggestions, appreciated them.

Negative experiences:

(1)Unfortunately my experiance with Ford Service and my paint issue. I initially brought the car in primarily for my paint peeling in my door sills and a noise that I thought was a loose exhaust but ended up being my motor. As soon as I dropped it off and showed the dealer they started prepping me for how long it would be gone away at the body shop. To them it was a clear defect. From the picture of the paint peeling you can see it is quite extensive. My car only has 24,000 miles on it. Ford said that it was from my feet. The location of the peeling and how it started though made me contest. Number one, I rarely run my feet across that area. Number two, it started as a white line, as though the door was constantly rubbing against something. I took this up with Deysha at Ford service and mentioned how my dealer was surpised they said No. She checked and told me that Ford found no defect and to go to my dealer to overturn if they had proof. I spoke with my dealer and they said they have tried to go through Ford before on things like this and they typically end up to no avail. They did however say that they would work something out. In the end they worked with me and covered a very large portion of the cost to have it repaired. Though this has never happened to me in the end I could be wrong. This may not of been defective paint or something from the door rubbing up against it, and the football cleats that I wear everyday to drive destroyed the paint. But i'm 32, have purchased three new cars as of yet, and will probably purchase more. Van bortel gained a customer, Ford lost one.


(2) I ordered a Exedy clutch, SR clutch line, and floor mats from American Muscle. They provided a delivery date with their free shipping(nice!!) and I had everything shipped directly to the dealer. I told the dealership when the items would arrive, so they started the warranty work to coincide with the expected delivery date. In the next day or two as expected everthing arrived except for the clutch line. That sucked as the dealer was putting in the clutch and clutch line for free, as everthing was already torn apart and had to be put back together no matter what. After speaking with the dealer they had to keep working, so I was going to be out a little money for the install of the line if it took them a while. Was a little heated that AM had stated a date of delivery but had chose other shipping methods for the clutch line. They should indicate this... I would of told the dealer a different date. This all didn't matter though. During install the clutch line kept popping out after the tech installed it and was checking it. He said he played with it numerous times and everytime after the install it would pop out after pressing on the clutch a few different times...Anyone else have this issue? So the clutch line ended up never getting installed but costed me money... Will be contacting AM for refund and hopefully compensation for the labor costs.

...pics wont upload. Will try later..

Man I am sorry you had to go through all of this. I am getting ready to bring mine in for some paint issues. You would think that Since Ford just re did the Mustang plant and out in the worlds most advanced paint system that none of these Paint issues would be going on. But it looks like the new paint system has made it worse.

I am glad you posted all of this. I am getting ready to purchase a few things for both of my Mustangs and AM keeps popping up on bad and missing shipments that is not good.

Hope it all works out for you. Good luck
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Old Nov 2, 2014 | 10:23 PM
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Man I am sorry you had to go through all of this. I am getting ready to bring mine in for some paint issues. You would think that Since Ford just re did the Mustang plant and out in the worlds most advanced paint system that none of these Paint issues would be going on. But it looks like the new paint system has made it worse.

I am glad you posted all of this. I am getting ready to purchase a few things for both of my Mustangs and AM keeps popping up on bad and missing shipments that is not good.

Hope it all works out for you. Good luck
Thanks for the reply Jazzman. As far as paint goes, I've never owned a car that has done something like that, new or used. My 04 Honda Element with 144K door sill's still look fine. Sigh...
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 08:09 AM
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That picture makes it look like the door is hitting that area. My '14 has a paint defect on the trunk, Ford is taking the car Friday to do the work and the dealer is giving me a loaner.
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 08:18 AM
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Why do you drive with cleats on?
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 08:35 AM
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Glad to hear that Ford really did well, taking care of you. If I had my car pulled apart. I would definitely be replacing recommended things like clutch (if it had enough mileage on it) and looking in other areas where you could save on labor!


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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 08:39 AM
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I figured i'd provide a quick update as I just received my Stang back earlier this week. ...
That’s great! Glad to learn your dealer took good care of you. Thanks for the update, Priceless!

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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Priceless
I figured i'd provide a quick update as I just received my Stang back earlier this week.

At any rate the motor is running great. I'm not sure if it was my mind playing games with me, or just having not driven her in a while but initially when I got the car back the whole car just felt loose, raw, unweildy and foreign. As time went on through the week she feels just like normal, if not a bit more powerful. The jury is still out on the latter as I haven't really pushed it as I was advised to break in the new motor for 500 miles. Any suggestions? I was just advised to take it easy and change the oil at 500. I hope I can add that many miles before the snow hits and she sits. Below are some positive and negative experiances i've had through this all.

Positive experiences:
(1)My dealer Van Bortel Ford. Initially I felt as I was not being communicated to very well after telling me the motor was done but not really providing many answers. A few phone calls and a trip over to them changed my mind. They communicated well. Staff was responsive and somewhat sympathetic to my problem. I spoke with the one and only mechanic working on my car quite extensively. The guy was well respected, a previous 5.0 owner, and layed everything out honestly. That is all I wanted. We also talked about modding, his experiance with #8 issues(though not related), and what he thought I should do. Cool guy.

On top of that, and most importantly Van Bortel worked out an paint issue that Ford service was not willing to. Thank you. Considering you sell more than just Ford, you gained a customer for life.

(2) You guys....thanks for all the suggestions, appreciated them.

Negative experiences:

(1)Unfortunately my experiance with Ford Service and my paint issue. I initially brought the car in primarily for my paint peeling in my door sills and a noise that I thought was a loose exhaust but ended up being my motor. As soon as I dropped it off and showed the dealer they started prepping me for how long it would be gone away at the body shop. To them it was a clear defect. From the picture of the paint peeling you can see it is quite extensive. My car only has 24,000 miles on it. Ford said that it was from my feet. The location of the peeling and how it started though made me contest. Number one, I rarely run my feet across that area. Number two, it started as a white line, as though the door was constantly rubbing against something. I took this up with Deysha at Ford service and mentioned how my dealer was surpised they said No. She checked and told me that Ford found no defect and to go to my dealer to overturn if they had proof. I spoke with my dealer and they said they have tried to go through Ford before on things like this and they typically end up to no avail. They did however say that they would work something out. In the end they worked with me and covered a very large portion of the cost to have it repaired. Though this has never happened to me in the end I could be wrong. This may not of been defective paint or something from the door rubbing up against it, and the football cleats that I wear everyday to drive destroyed the paint. But i'm 32, have purchased three new cars as of yet, and will probably purchase more. Van bortel gained a customer, Ford lost one.


(2) I ordered a Exedy clutch, SR clutch line, and floor mats from American Muscle. They provided a delivery date with their free shipping(nice!!) and I had everything shipped directly to the dealer. I told the dealership when the items would arrive, so they started the warranty work to coincide with the expected delivery date. In the next day or two as expected everthing arrived except for the clutch line. That sucked as the dealer was putting in the clutch and clutch line for free, as everthing was already torn apart and had to be put back together no matter what. After speaking with the dealer they had to keep working, so I was going to be out a little money for the install of the line if it took them a while. Was a little heated that AM had stated a date of delivery but had chose other shipping methods for the clutch line. They should indicate this... I would of told the dealer a different date. This all didn't matter though. During install the clutch line kept popping out after the tech installed it and was checking it. He said he played with it numerous times and everytime after the install it would pop out after pressing on the clutch a few different times...Anyone else have this issue? So the clutch line ended up never getting installed but costed me money... Will be contacting AM for refund and hopefully compensation for the labor costs.

...pics wont upload. Will try later..
Firstly... am glad you got your issue resolved and your car is running again. Kudos to your attention to detail and your dealership.

Secondly, the items in bold I highlighted above. If you were "lurking" a while here, you would have know that the problem with that vendor is not that uncommon. So I'd say I'm not surprised. Sorry to hear that. Learn from it, and choose more wisely with your next vendor.
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 02:55 AM
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Clutch line issues...
I went with the McLeod clutch line kit (I got it from American Muscle). The McLeod kit uses AN fittings in combination with the QD fittings, and includes a bleeder elbow. It was more expensive, but it's well worth the money.
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by scott9050
That picture makes it look like the door is hitting that area. My '14 has a paint defect on the trunk, Ford is taking the car Friday to do the work and the dealer is giving me a loaner.
Great to hear you are being taken care of properly. Yes I basically felt the same way in regards to my door. It all started as a white line, as if something was rubbing and then grew from there. Happy it was taken care of, but disappointed that Ford Service said it was not their issue.
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