2013 Shelby GT500 certified at 662 horsepower / 630 lb-ft torque
4/27/12, 04:52 PM
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Looking at front engine, RWD, high HP (600+) & TQ, track/drag coupes...
Which of the ones is not like the other???
Viper ACR
Fronts: 295/30/18
Rears: 355/30/19
Rear section width: 14in (*2 = 28inches of a rubber to road)
SL AMG Black Series
Fronts: 265/35/19
Rears: 325/30/20
Rear section width: 12.8in (*2 = 25.6inches of a rubber to road)
ZR1
Fronts: 285/30/19
Rears: 335/25/20
Rear section width: 13.2in (*2 = 26.4inches of a rubber to road)
GT500
Fronts: 255/40/19
Rears: 285/35/20
Rear section width: 11.2in (*2 = 22.4inches of a rubber to road)
599 GTB
Fronts: 285/30/20
Rears: 315/35/20
Rear section width: 12.4in (*2 = 24.8inches of a rubber to road)
One-77
Fronts: 255/35/20
Rears: 335/30/20
Rear section width: 13.2in (*2 = 26.4inches of a rubber to road)
Which of the ones is not like the other???
Viper ACR
Fronts: 295/30/18
Rears: 355/30/19
Rear section width: 14in (*2 = 28inches of a rubber to road)
SL AMG Black Series
Fronts: 265/35/19
Rears: 325/30/20
Rear section width: 12.8in (*2 = 25.6inches of a rubber to road)
ZR1
Fronts: 285/30/19
Rears: 335/25/20
Rear section width: 13.2in (*2 = 26.4inches of a rubber to road)
GT500
Fronts: 255/40/19
Rears: 285/35/20
Rear section width: 11.2in (*2 = 22.4inches of a rubber to road)
599 GTB
Fronts: 285/30/20
Rears: 315/35/20
Rear section width: 12.4in (*2 = 24.8inches of a rubber to road)
One-77
Fronts: 255/35/20
Rears: 335/30/20
Rear section width: 13.2in (*2 = 26.4inches of a rubber to road)
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4/27/12, 05:02 PM
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Now hold your fingers up to make 2 inches. Now do you really think that's going to mean a dam thing to 662hp 631tq? The 335 might do a little, but very little.
Last edited by 11SHELBYGT500; 4/27/12 at 05:05 PM.
4/27/12, 05:38 PM
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While I'm sure a wider tire would help,
There are other forces at play here that will help with traction.
You don't really think they'd slap over 100hp on and just call it a day.
Lets all wait and see how it performs first before being a keyboard engineer ...
There are other forces at play here that will help with traction.
You don't really think they'd slap over 100hp on and just call it a day.
Lets all wait and see how it performs first before being a keyboard engineer ...
4/27/12, 05:41 PM
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Put that in perspective- That's like saying 2 inches the other way wont be a detriment? So if this thing road in on 10 inch rear tires all would be well with the world...
2 inches would absolutely make a difference- 4 would be astounding. This thing isn't even in the same league, hell it's not even the same sport when looked at competing sizes.
this engine is hands down one of the most impressive things to come out of ford, pretty much ever. And yet it's using tires that were on the thing from 2005.
The verbal diarrhea that spewed from Hameedi's mouth on why they continue to use 285's is a bunch of corporate blah blah Bullsh1t for not spending the time/money to use it on an outgoing platform. And you can see him clearly not understand his own reasonings along the way.
2 inches would absolutely make a difference- 4 would be astounding. This thing isn't even in the same league, hell it's not even the same sport when looked at competing sizes.
this engine is hands down one of the most impressive things to come out of ford, pretty much ever. And yet it's using tires that were on the thing from 2005.
The verbal diarrhea that spewed from Hameedi's mouth on why they continue to use 285's is a bunch of corporate blah blah Bullsh1t for not spending the time/money to use it on an outgoing platform. And you can see him clearly not understand his own reasonings along the way.
Last edited by 2010MustangGT; 4/27/12 at 05:57 PM.
4/27/12, 06:31 PM
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Really? Over tires?
If the owners (me) want bigger tires, I'll go out and buy them. If you're getting this car and you're too strapped for cash to do whatever you think needs to be done to the car, you shoulda bought a GT.
I'll drive it with the oems and if they're not sufficient I'll replace them. No need to go all Michael Scott on ford for not using duallies for rear tires.
If the owners (me) want bigger tires, I'll go out and buy them. If you're getting this car and you're too strapped for cash to do whatever you think needs to be done to the car, you shoulda bought a GT.
I'll drive it with the oems and if they're not sufficient I'll replace them. No need to go all Michael Scott on ford for not using duallies for rear tires.
4/27/12, 06:53 PM
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Put that in perspective- That's like saying 2 inches the other way wont be a detriment? So if this thing road in on 10 inch rear tires all would be well with the world...
2 inches would absolutely make a difference- 4 would be astounding. This thing isn't even in the same league, hell it's not even the same sport when looked at competing sizes.
this engine is hands down one of the most impressive things to come out of ford, pretty much ever. And yet it's using tires that were on the thing from 2005.
The verbal diarrhea that spewed from Hameedi's mouth on why they continue to use 285's is a bunch of corporate blah blah Bullsh1t for not spending the time/money to use it on an outgoing platform. And you can see him clearly not understand his own reasonings along the way.
2 inches would absolutely make a difference- 4 would be astounding. This thing isn't even in the same league, hell it's not even the same sport when looked at competing sizes.
this engine is hands down one of the most impressive things to come out of ford, pretty much ever. And yet it's using tires that were on the thing from 2005.
The verbal diarrhea that spewed from Hameedi's mouth on why they continue to use 285's is a bunch of corporate blah blah Bullsh1t for not spending the time/money to use it on an outgoing platform. And you can see him clearly not understand his own reasonings along the way.
The reason they continue to use a 285 tire has been beaten to death, but since you seem to be a vehicle dynamics and tire engineer you can't believe it. Go ahead, slap a 315 on the rear of your car and see what happens to the handling when driven hard.
So when this thing bangs out 1/4 mile times in the 11's it still wont be good enough because it ONLY has a 285 rear tire? Just because other cars have wider tires doesn't mean it's right for this car. I can see if this car spun it's way to mid 12's that people would be upset, but it's all speculation and denial.
4/27/12, 08:31 PM
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The reason they continue to use a 285 tire has been beaten to death, but since you seem to be a vehicle dynamics and tire engineer you can't believe it. Go ahead, slap a 315 on the rear of your car and see what happens to the handling when driven hard.
So when this thing bangs out 1/4 mile times in the 11's it still wont be good enough because it ONLY has a 285 rear tire? Just because other cars have wider tires doesn't mean it's right for this car. I can see if this car spun it's way to mid 12's that people would be upset, but it's all speculation and denial.
So when this thing bangs out 1/4 mile times in the 11's it still wont be good enough because it ONLY has a 285 rear tire? Just because other cars have wider tires doesn't mean it's right for this car. I can see if this car spun it's way to mid 12's that people would be upset, but it's all speculation and denial.
4/27/12, 08:54 PM
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Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords' Evan Smith, someone who's actually been behind the wheel of a 2013 Shelby GT500, said this in regards to launching the new GT500,
"While the '07-'11 GT500s are fast machines, launching one can be a challenge, especially with stock tires. For the '13, Ford solved this problem with the introduction of Launch Control and Traction Control systems to maximize acceleration with minimal or, in most cases, zero slip. And believe us, the acceleration will quench even the thirstiest horsepower junkies. We got to experience these driver aids, and they are nothing short of amazing."
Read more: http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...#ixzz1tIdHhs37
And, like someone's said before, just because a 345 rear tire works well on, say, a Viper, that doesn't necessarily mean an identical set-up is ideal for a Shelby GT500. I'm assuming the engineers have to take vehicle dynamics, weight distribution and a myriad of factors into account when developing a wheel and tire package.
Personally, given the fact this car hasn't even been released, yet, I'm going to wait until people begin getting their hands on them, especially before accusing others of being kool-aid-drinking fanboys.
"While the '07-'11 GT500s are fast machines, launching one can be a challenge, especially with stock tires. For the '13, Ford solved this problem with the introduction of Launch Control and Traction Control systems to maximize acceleration with minimal or, in most cases, zero slip. And believe us, the acceleration will quench even the thirstiest horsepower junkies. We got to experience these driver aids, and they are nothing short of amazing."
Read more: http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...#ixzz1tIdHhs37
And, like someone's said before, just because a 345 rear tire works well on, say, a Viper, that doesn't necessarily mean an identical set-up is ideal for a Shelby GT500. I'm assuming the engineers have to take vehicle dynamics, weight distribution and a myriad of factors into account when developing a wheel and tire package.
Personally, given the fact this car hasn't even been released, yet, I'm going to wait until people begin getting their hands on them, especially before accusing others of being kool-aid-drinking fanboys.
4/27/12, 08:58 PM
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That tried and true excuse of effecting handling in this modern era is garbage. Youre drinking the Hameedi koolaid. Half the cars I mentioned have larger or the same up front as what the gt500 has in the rear. You think the Viper with 295s wont be able to track?? One engineers it. To say this car would not be better with bigger tires, you're living a fanboy dream. It's an after thought for 2013.
4/27/12, 09:18 PM
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Looking at front engine, RWD, high HP (600+) & TQ, track/drag coupes...
Which of the ones is not like the other???
Viper ACR
Fronts: 295/30/18
Rears: 355/30/19
Rear section width: 14in (*2 = 28inches of a rubber to road)
SL AMG Black Series
Fronts: 265/35/19
Rears: 325/30/20
Rear section width: 12.8in (*2 = 25.6inches of a rubber to road)
ZR1
Fronts: 285/30/19
Rears: 335/25/20
Rear section width: 13.2in (*2 = 26.4inches of a rubber to road)
GT500
Fronts: 255/40/19
Rears: 285/35/20
Rear section width: 11.2in (*2 = 22.4inches of a rubber to road)
599 GTB
Fronts: 285/30/20
Rears: 315/35/20
Rear section width: 12.4in (*2 = 24.8inches of a rubber to road)
One-77
Fronts: 255/35/20
Rears: 335/30/20
Rear section width: 13.2in (*2 = 26.4inches of a rubber to road)
Which of the ones is not like the other???
Viper ACR
Fronts: 295/30/18
Rears: 355/30/19
Rear section width: 14in (*2 = 28inches of a rubber to road)
SL AMG Black Series
Fronts: 265/35/19
Rears: 325/30/20
Rear section width: 12.8in (*2 = 25.6inches of a rubber to road)
ZR1
Fronts: 285/30/19
Rears: 335/25/20
Rear section width: 13.2in (*2 = 26.4inches of a rubber to road)
GT500
Fronts: 255/40/19
Rears: 285/35/20
Rear section width: 11.2in (*2 = 22.4inches of a rubber to road)
599 GTB
Fronts: 285/30/20
Rears: 315/35/20
Rear section width: 12.4in (*2 = 24.8inches of a rubber to road)
One-77
Fronts: 255/35/20
Rears: 335/30/20
Rear section width: 13.2in (*2 = 26.4inches of a rubber to road)
4/27/12, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 2010MustangGT
That tried and true excuse of effecting handling in this modern era is garbage. Youre drinking the Hameedi koolaid. Half the cars I mentioned have larger or the same up front as what the gt500 has in the rear. You think the Viper with 295s wont be able to track?? One engineers it. To say this car would not be better with bigger tires, you're living a fanboy dream. It's an after thought for 2013.
4/28/12, 07:01 AM
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Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords' Evan Smith, someone who's actually been behind the wheel of a 2013 Shelby GT500, said this in regards to launching the new GT500,
"While the '07-'11 GT500s are fast machines, launching one can be a challenge, especially with stock tires. For the '13, Ford solved this problem with the introduction of Launch Control and Traction Control systems to maximize acceleration with minimal or, in most cases, zero slip. And believe us, the acceleration will quench even the thirstiest horsepower junkies. We got to experience these driver aids, and they are nothing short of amazing."
Read more: http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...#ixzz1tIdHhs37
And, like someone's said before, just because a 345 rear tire works well on, say, a Viper, that doesn't necessarily mean an identical set-up is ideal for a Shelby GT500. I'm assuming the engineers have to take vehicle dynamics, weight distribution and a myriad of factors into account when developing a wheel and tire package.
Personally, given the fact this car hasn't even been released, yet, I'm going to wait until people begin getting their hands on them, especially before accusing others of being kool-aid-drinking fanboys.
"While the '07-'11 GT500s are fast machines, launching one can be a challenge, especially with stock tires. For the '13, Ford solved this problem with the introduction of Launch Control and Traction Control systems to maximize acceleration with minimal or, in most cases, zero slip. And believe us, the acceleration will quench even the thirstiest horsepower junkies. We got to experience these driver aids, and they are nothing short of amazing."
Read more: http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...#ixzz1tIdHhs37
And, like someone's said before, just because a 345 rear tire works well on, say, a Viper, that doesn't necessarily mean an identical set-up is ideal for a Shelby GT500. I'm assuming the engineers have to take vehicle dynamics, weight distribution and a myriad of factors into account when developing a wheel and tire package.
Personally, given the fact this car hasn't even been released, yet, I'm going to wait until people begin getting their hands on them, especially before accusing others of being kool-aid-drinking fanboys.
4/28/12, 08:13 AM
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The verbal diarrhea that spewed from Hameedi's mouth on why they continue to use 285's is a bunch of corporate blah blah Bullsh1t for not spending the time/money to use it on an outgoing platform. And you can see him clearly not understand his own reasonings along the way.
That tried and true excuse of effecting handling in this modern era is garbage. Youre drinking the Hameedi koolaid. Half the cars I mentioned have larger or the same up front as what the gt500 has in the rear. You think the Viper with 295s wont be able to track?? One engineers it. To say this car would not be better with bigger tires, you're living a fanboy dream. It's an after thought for 2013.
4/28/12, 08:28 AM
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I did exactly what he said with the list I made above...
when 2015 drops with 335s w/ 285 suddenly everyone will understand.
4/28/12, 08:36 AM
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That tried and true excuse of effecting handling in this modern era is garbage. Youre drinking the Hameedi koolaid. Half the cars I mentioned have larger or the same up front as what the gt500 has in the rear. You think the Viper with 295s wont be able to track?? One engineers it. To say this car would not be better with bigger tires, you're living a fanboy dream. It's an after thought for 2013.
If your car was a chore to drive and you had to constantly make steering corrections while going straight and it turned-in like crap, would you be a happy owner and want to drive it everyday? I'm sure you've heard this saying your whole life, "it's not the size but how you use it".
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