2012 Boss
9/16/09 | 08:47 AM
#61
Bullitt Member
Joined: December 17, 2007
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My wish list:
450hp DI 5.0 (with a nice crackling 12:1 CR for a motor that really snaps forward) with a 7.5K redline (make her a screamer like the original)
DCT, or at least the GT500's 6 cogger for a slightly more reality-based option
3.73 rear end
Borla exhaust
Chassis:
Uprated springs, shocks, bushings and geometry.
IRS in the rear, or at least a lot of lightened (AL, CF, MAG) compenents to try to rid the live axle of all that dead (unsprung) weight -- and a Watts linkage.
Lightweight wheels (see aforementioned unsprung weight comment)
Brembos all around.
Body:
Very purposeful and serious, reflecting its grown-up's performance machine character.
GT500'esque bodywork
Keep it purposeful and functional -- no goofy scoops, slats, wings or whatever (make them optional if at all).
Very modern and updated interpretations of identifying badging and stickers -- stay away from being too retro as seems to be the habit of late.
Interior:
Very purposeful and functional -- this is a serious grown-up's performance machine
Recaro seats
Real visible fonts in the instrumentation.
Alloy pedals
Price: $35K max (has to stay competitive with the Camaro, which has a lot of this stuff, specs already at $30K)
450hp DI 5.0 (with a nice crackling 12:1 CR for a motor that really snaps forward) with a 7.5K redline (make her a screamer like the original)
DCT, or at least the GT500's 6 cogger for a slightly more reality-based option
3.73 rear end
Borla exhaust
Chassis:
Uprated springs, shocks, bushings and geometry.
IRS in the rear, or at least a lot of lightened (AL, CF, MAG) compenents to try to rid the live axle of all that dead (unsprung) weight -- and a Watts linkage.
Lightweight wheels (see aforementioned unsprung weight comment)
Brembos all around.
Body:
Very purposeful and serious, reflecting its grown-up's performance machine character.
GT500'esque bodywork
Keep it purposeful and functional -- no goofy scoops, slats, wings or whatever (make them optional if at all).
Very modern and updated interpretations of identifying badging and stickers -- stay away from being too retro as seems to be the habit of late.
Interior:
Very purposeful and functional -- this is a serious grown-up's performance machine
Recaro seats
Real visible fonts in the instrumentation.
Alloy pedals
Price: $35K max (has to stay competitive with the Camaro, which has a lot of this stuff, specs already at $30K)
Greg "Eights" Ates
9/16/09 | 01:30 PM
#62
Mach 1 Member
Joined: May 16, 2008
Posts: 571
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From: Vancouver
So outside of specifics, is it safe to say that most people are hoping for something more along the lines of the 2000 Cobra R, but not as exclusive and expensive?
I'm sure we won't see anything quite that stripped down, but that is the impression I am getting.
I think we can probably get a good idea of the character that Ford will be going for by looking at the Raptor. That is a very purpose built vehicle and caters to an extreme market by offering extreme performance and capability, but still maintains it's everyday drivability. All the reviews I have read have commented on how great it is performance wise, while surprisingly still being something that you can drive on the road every day.
That is a difficult balance to negotiate, but it would be great if we could see that in a Boss. An extremely capable purpose built road racing car, that can still be driven every day.
I'm sure we won't see anything quite that stripped down, but that is the impression I am getting.
I think we can probably get a good idea of the character that Ford will be going for by looking at the Raptor. That is a very purpose built vehicle and caters to an extreme market by offering extreme performance and capability, but still maintains it's everyday drivability. All the reviews I have read have commented on how great it is performance wise, while surprisingly still being something that you can drive on the road every day.
That is a difficult balance to negotiate, but it would be great if we could see that in a Boss. An extremely capable purpose built road racing car, that can still be driven every day.
9/16/09 | 05:47 PM
#63
Swamp Donkey Aficionado
Joined: November 23, 2006
Posts: 1,863
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So outside of specifics, is it safe to say that most people are hoping for something more along the lines of the 2000 Cobra R, but not as exclusive and expensive?
I'm sure we won't see anything quite that stripped down, but that is the impression I am getting.
I think we can probably get a good idea of the character that Ford will be going for by looking at the Raptor. That is a very purpose built vehicle and caters to an extreme market by offering extreme performance and capability, but still maintains it's everyday drivability. All the reviews I have read have commented on how great it is performance wise, while surprisingly still being something that you can drive on the road every day.
That is a difficult balance to negotiate, but it would be great if we could see that in a Boss. An extremely capable purpose built road racing car, that can still be driven every day.
I'm sure we won't see anything quite that stripped down, but that is the impression I am getting.
I think we can probably get a good idea of the character that Ford will be going for by looking at the Raptor. That is a very purpose built vehicle and caters to an extreme market by offering extreme performance and capability, but still maintains it's everyday drivability. All the reviews I have read have commented on how great it is performance wise, while surprisingly still being something that you can drive on the road every day.
That is a difficult balance to negotiate, but it would be great if we could see that in a Boss. An extremely capable purpose built road racing car, that can still be driven every day.
9/16/09 | 06:23 PM
#65
Mach 1 Member
Joined: March 29, 2007
Posts: 766
Likes: 0
9/16/09 | 08:51 PM
#67
Team Mustang Source
Joined: July 4, 2006
Posts: 2,872
Likes: 1
From: St. Louis Area
There is a 2000 R at one of my local dealerships. I stared at that thing for like 20 minutes drooling.
And I would do bad things to have a new Boss that looked just like that white car above. Very bad things.
And I would do bad things to have a new Boss that looked just like that white car above. Very bad things.
9/17/09 | 09:45 AM
#70
GT Member
Joined: January 30, 2004
Posts: 118
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From: Flint, MI
Yeah, there were 107. I think (IIRC) Ford only wanted to produce 100, but then there was a lawsuit that nudged them to produce a few more. Something to do with orders that were in the system already...
9/17/09 | 03:20 PM
#72
Needs to be more Astony
Joined: October 4, 2004
Posts: 8,609
Likes: 5
From: Volo, IL
9/18/09 | 12:34 AM
#76
Thread Starter
GTR Member
Joined: October 18, 2006
Posts: 5,553
Likes: 11
From: England
Sure. I'd love to see a full fastback and the side window treatment from the '69/'70 cars......but I don't thing we're going to see any significant sheet metal changes until the 2014/15 model year.
9/18/09 | 04:47 AM
#78
V6 Member
Joined: November 9, 2008
Posts: 60
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From: North Jersey
I actually like the new rear-end. When I first saw the 2005 production model compared to the concept I was very disappointed, but I think it took me longer to like the 2005 rear than it did to like the 2010's
9/18/09 | 02:02 PM
#80
Mach 1 Member
Joined: May 16, 2008
Posts: 571
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From: Vancouver
You know what, lets just forget the Boss and have an LX special edition in honour of the original 5.0! I hope Ford still has some of the 15" 10 hole wheels laying around! haha
BTW, just for the record, I loooove the 2010 rear! It is one of my favorite parts of the new design. It is light years ahead of the 05-09 rear which is looks like someone just gave a 5 yar old a ruler and a box of crayons and told them to copy the 65/66 rear.
BTW, just for the record, I loooove the 2010 rear! It is one of my favorite parts of the new design. It is light years ahead of the 05-09 rear which is looks like someone just gave a 5 yar old a ruler and a box of crayons and told them to copy the 65/66 rear.