Originally Posted by FordBlueHeart

You guys are hilarious! Does even 2 mpg make THAT much of a difference anyways? 20,000 miles a year equates to 45 gallons more a YEAR! (Difference between 31 and 29mpg). At $3 per gallon that's $135 a year!
How about a whopping 5 mpg! (25 versus 30mpg). That's $1.09 a day.
How about the difference between 20mpg and 30? Now we are talking real money! A whopping $2.75 more a day. Not bad admission price to 412 horsepower!
'Nuff said.

Originally Posted by PolishAmericanMustang

You're hilarious too. You want to talk about price of admission? There is a $7,000 difference between the 2011 V6 Premium Convertible and the 2011 GT Premium Convertible. THAT'S the price of admission, not the fuel mileage analysis! If you can afford the car, you should **** well be able to afford the gas.

I don't think anyone would say, "I can afford the $7,000 difference, but can't justify the extra $100 a year it will cost to operate over the V6."

I can only speak for myself, but I don't buy a car unless I can pay cash for it. When it comes down to it, I know for sure I could swing the V6 Premium vert later this year. The GT would be a financial stretch unless I get a nice mid-year bonus, but more than that, it would be just plain difficult for me to justify the V8 (as freakin' awesome as it is) considering just how impressive the new V6 is.

Unless gas hits $4 a gallon again this summer and stays there, fuel mileage isn't going to be the main selling point. The fact that the new V6 gets 30MPG is just icing on the cake in light of it producing 305HP and revving to 7000RPM.

Originally Posted by orange3.9stang

Per this Ford media release, the V6 MT is going to get 19/29 MPG ...
http://media.ford.com/article_displa...ticle_id=32160
... but the majority of the other news releases say 19/30 like Motor Trend.

Quite possible Ford has a typo in their official release, but if not where did all these other media outlets get the line "you lose 1 MPG highway when you select the MT" ??

I just find it interesting that someone got the facts messed up.

Doug

Originally Posted by Falchion

The EPA certified it as 31. Ford didn't want to overstate the figure.

Originally Posted by orange3.9stang

The AT (Automatic) is rated at 19/31 MPG ... YES ... no conflict here !!

But the MT (Manual) is either rated at 19/29 (official EPA) per Ford media or 19/30 (official EPA) per the Motor Trend article AND the majority of the other articles dated 3/4/10.

So which is it ??

Doug

Originally Posted by orange3.9stang

Here are all the comparison numbers between 2005-10 V6 and 2011 V6 w/ std. 2.73 & opt. 3.31 gears and std. 17" & opt. 18" tires ... . . . .In a nut shell ...
With the std. 2.73 gears, you get "similar" off-the-line performance but "gain" reduced cruising RPM's in OD compared to an 05-10.
or
With the opt. 3.31 gears, you "gain" off-the-line performance and get "similar" cruising RPM's in OD compared to an 05-10.

Hope this helps,

Doug

Originally Posted by orange3.9stang

Here are all the comparison numbers between 2005-10 V6 and 2011 V6 w/ std. 2.73 & opt. 3.31 gears and std. 17" & opt. 18" tires ...

1st gear @ 30 MPH:
05-10 V6 AT ... 4082 RPM w/ 215/60-17, 3.220 1st & 3.31 FD
vs.
2011 V6 AT ... 4229 RPM w/ 215/65-17, 4.171 1st & 2.73 FD
2011 V6 AT ... 4346 RPM w/ 235/50-18, 4.171 1st & 2.73 FD
2011 V6 AT ... 5269 RPM w/ 235/50-18, 4.171 1st & 3.31 FD

05-10 V6 MT ... 4754 RPM w/ 215/60-17, 3.750 1st & 3.31 FD
vs.
2011 V6 MT ... 4353 RPM w/ 225/60-17, 4.236 1st & 2.73 FD
2011 V6 MT ... 4413 RPM w/ 235/50-18, 4.236 1st & 2.73 FD
2011 V6 MT ... 5351 RPM w/ 235/50-18, 4.236 1st & 3.31 FD

O.D. @ 75 MPH:
05-10 V6 AT ... 2250 RPM w/ 215/60-17, 0.710 OD & 3.31 FD
vs.
2011 V6 AT ... 1751 RPM w/ 215/65-17, 0.691 OD & 2.73 FD
2011 V6 AT ... 1800 RPM w/ 235/50-18, 0.691 OD & 2.73 FD
2011 V6 AT ... 2182 RPM w/ 235/50-18, 0.691 OD & 3.31 FD

05-10 V6 MT ... 2282 RPM w/ 215/60-17, 0.720 OD & 3.31 FD
vs.
2011 V6 MT ... 1798 RPM w/ 225/60-17, 0.700 OD & 2.73 FD
2011 V6 MT ... 1823 RPM w/ 235/50-18, 0.700 OD & 2.73 FD
2011 V6 MT ... 2211 RPM w/ 235/50-18, 0.700 OD & 3.31 FD

If you order your 2011 V6 w/ std. 2.73's & std. 17" tires ...
AT: you'll have 3.6% more RPM in 1st & 22.2% less RPM in OD (than an 05/10 V6)
MT: you'll have 8.4% less RPM in 1st & 21.2% less RPM in OD

If you order your 2011 V6 w/ std. 2.73's & opt. 18" tires ...
AT: you'll have 6.5% more RPM in 1st & 20.0% less RPM in OD (than 05/10 V6)
MT: you'll have 7.2% less RPM in 1st & 20.1% less RPM in OD

If you order your 2011 V6 w/ opt. 3.31's & opt. 18" tires ...
AT: you'll have 29.1% more RPM in 1st & 3.00% less RPM in OD (than 05/10 V6)
MT: you'll have 12.6% more RPM in 1st & 3.11% less RPM in OD


Doug

Originally Posted by orange3.9stang

Bert, here you go