2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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A Shelby GT-350 needs a V8 period. That's "true homage".
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by eci
A Shelby GT-350 needs a V8 period. That's "true homage".
Yep!
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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Now I'm going to be called a "poser"!
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by black sunshine
GT500 has historically been the better of the two.
Ahem. Back in the day, the GT350 was a race car and the GT500 was a boat with a station wagon motor. 289 hipo's powered the competition Cobras, Cobra Daytonas, GT40's, and GT350R's. People joked that the "500" in GT500 came from the additional 500 pounds up front for a scant few extra HP. All this changed with the release of the remake of "Gone in Sixty Seconds", wherein Nick Cage pines for a fake GT500 as if it were God's gift to autodom. So, "historically", by what metric do you assume the GT500 has been better?
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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Hmm... wut indeed, this should be interesting...
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Moosetang
I was hoping for a EB V6 as well, partly because I was hoping for a true homage to the original GT-350, with emphasis on lighter weight and better handling over power. IMO, a real modern GT-350 would be done with an EB 3.5, lightweight (Composite?) hood/roof panels, stripped out the back seat, generally kept light and nimble.

While I definitely agree with you on principle, does anyone have any weight figures to support the EB being lighter than the 5L? (turbos are pretty heavy after all). Also, the lightweight components would most likely add considerably to the price, on top of the $5k for the Shelby badge. Now, CDC already did a c/f roof skin to replace the glass roof -- so that would be a pretty easy thing to do. And the RTR-C already has CF molds for everything, so they could make a lightweight version. But, then they would have to re-crash test everything, which, again, would add considerably to the cost....

Anyway, it is fun to dream, but I expect it won't be too much more than FRPP parts and a sticker job, with some minor cosmetic changes.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by S7MS
Ahem. Back in the day, the GT350 was a race car and the GT500 was a boat with a station wagon motor. 289 hipo's powered the competition Cobras, Cobra Daytonas, GT40's, and GT350R's. People joked that the "500" in GT500 came from the additional 500 pounds up front for a scant few extra HP. All this changed with the release of the remake of "Gone in Sixty Seconds", wherein Nick Cage pines for a fake GT500 as if it were God's gift to autodom. So, "historically", by what metric do you assume the GT500 has been better?

Bigger engine, more power, suppporting mods, I love your argument though.......By your measure my 2007 Mustang GT is the superior car compared to the new Shelby GT500........Thanks for the compliment; I was getting ready to trade in for a 2010 Shelby GT500. Who needs that pig!!!

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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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Should be more of a track car instead of a brute.
Translation: Still a $50,000 Mustang.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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This will be VERY interesting....
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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The more S H E L B Ys the better. Bring it...
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rampant
Anyway, it is fun to dream, but I expect it won't be too much more than FRPP parts and a sticker job, with some minor cosmetic changes.
Unfortunately I think you're probably right. Much like the overpriced disappointment which is the Shelby GT, but you never know. Being an anniversary edition, there might be a bit more effort put in to it
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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Shelby lettering means nothing to me. I want substance. Look at the Bullitt Mustangs for a example.

Ford has miked the name as far as they can go. imo. Its almost to the point of being a joke. Just my opinion of course.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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January 18th...5.0 Coyote...450HP?...45th Anniv...
Shelby American...Vegas Built

Any price speculation???
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Clino
Unfortunately I think you're probably right. Much like the overpriced disappointment which is the Shelby GT, but you never know. Being an anniversary edition, there might be a bit more effort put in to it
They will not waste the GT-350 name. Trust me. There is a reason the Shelby GT was called just that, and not the GT-350. Did the GT-500 disappoint?
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by black sunshine
Bigger engine, more power, suppporting mods, I love your argument though.......
The old GT500's were no corner carvers, while the 65-66 GT350's were tearing up 'Vettes on road race circuits nationwide. The late '60's GT500's were not tearing up any tracks, except maybe an occasional dragstrip. By the late '60's, cars like the GT500, Pontiac GTO, Chargers, etc. were more about big block V8's motivating ever growing luxury yachts with too many creature comforts. The small block screamer that was the first generation Shelby GT350 was bred for the track - not the boulevards of suburbia.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Clino
Unfortunately I think you're probably right. Much like the overpriced disappointment which is the Shelby GT, but you never know. Being an anniversary edition, there might be a bit more effort put in to it
That car really needed some summer tires, it would have made for a substantial difference compared to the regular GT in the handling compartment since it was also equipped with the FR3 setup.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:25 AM
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Could the car on the left, with the turn-signals in the grill, be a prototype 2011 GT-350? The 2010 GT-500 certainly isn't set up that way, but I guess it could just be an abandoned idea for signal placement.

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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 04:28 AM
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I'd prefer a GT350 with the Ecoboost 3.5. It would make for a much more interesting car than just an over priced GT with some bolt ons and body kit. The 5.0 begs for a Boss 302 model which would be the same thing really with a cooler paint job and a shaker hood. What would be the point of a GT350 based on the 5.0???
From what I've heard it will have the EB3.5.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by black sunshine
GT500 has historically been the better of the two.
Definitely depends what you mean by "better". As pointed out earlier, the GT350 has the true racing history The original GT500 came with a hugely heavy big block, had the nimble handling of an ocean liner, and was basically only proficient in a straight line.

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From what I've heard it will have the EB3.5.
Don't hold your breath. Ford is NOT going to spend a fortune packaging a completely different engine into the Mustang for limited run model. My guess would be either a 5.0L with bolt ons, or a blown 3.7L ala the current Terlingua model

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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Torch_Vert
Definitely depends what you mean by "better". As pointed out earlier, the GT350 has the true racing history The original GT500 came with a hugely heavy big block, had the nimble handling of an ocean liner, and was basically only proficient in a straight line.



Don't hold your breath. Ford is NOT going to spend a fortune packaging a completely different engine into the Mustang for limited run model. My guess would be either a 5.0L with bolt ons, or a blown 3.7L ala the current Terlingua model
Considering Falc'man has been pretty much spot-on with all of his previous information...
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