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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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January 18th...5.0 Coyote...450HP?...45th Anniv...
Shelby American...Vegas Built
Well, I'm really hoping it's based on the Coyote, and 450bhp would be just enough for me

There's been chatter over on Team Shelby. Seems Amy (Boylan - President of Shelby) is a bit of a tease....just like our Topnotch and Boomer

http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/ind...-shelby-gt350/
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 08:49 AM
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Better at what? Brute force in a straight line and/or luxury boat? The GT350 was the purer road race car, IMO. The GT350 handled the corners, while the GT500 handled the dragstrip.
The GT500's did not rule the strips back then. They were street cars. Rarely ever saw one racing at the track back then. Way too expensive of a car to race when new. The GT350's *were* great track car though..
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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If it comes out, it'll be like the Shelby GT, Super Snake packages...done in Vegas by Shelby and get ready to pay.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by topbliss
The GT500's did not rule the strips back then. They were street cars. Rarely ever saw one racing at the track back then. Way too expensive of a car to race when new. The GT350's *were* great track car though..
The 67-68 GT500's were pretty much the dressed up version of Ford's 68 428 Cobrajet Mustang (an equally rare car), so the potential was there. As you have pointed out though, the Shelby's were pricey and didn't make it into very many hands at the strip.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MARZ
Considering Falc'man has been pretty much spot-on with all of his previous information...
It seems VERY unlikely. If he's right, fantastic, it would be an interesting combo
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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I can't get my mouth to form the sentence with the words "V6" and "Shelby" in it...

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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FKA MotorCity Agent
I can't get my mouth to form the sentence with the words "V6" and "Shelby" in it...

Agreed. Especially for a pre-title special edition.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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It was rumoured a while ago.
Its been tested (the Eco 3.5 in the Mustang) and according to Wescoent on GMI, every exec whose driven one used a lot of explicitives.... apparently its an amazing car and would probably turn a lot of people.

I myself still love the sound of a very capable v8, and slap the eco configuration on the V8s and you have one potent beast. But in the end the Eco 3.5 in a RWD car would destroy a stock coyote.

The decision not to put it in the Mustang had to deal with probably cost #1 and #2 the traditional V8 lovers, as well as not overshadowing the 5L.
That's not to say the 5L isn't capable...

Wesco seems to think the 5L is a stop gap.
I don't think so, unless its a LONG stop gap. (in relative terms)
I know there's some other cool idea's and things around the corner, but I hope they stick with a V8 even if it means downsizing the size with twin hair dryers, but keep it an 8.

Can you imagine a smaller v8 with twin turbo's?
It'd have a kickin sound, be lighter, handle a lot better, and wipe the floor of a lot of bigger displacement engines.
Sign me the **** up

But in the meantime the 5L family has more than enough oomph....

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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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http://www.leftlanenews.com/shelby-gt350.html

Leftlane has learned that Shelby Automotive is developing a high-performance, Ford Mustang-based model using Ford’s new Coyote V8 powerplant as its base. Rumors and speculation hint that the new model could be called GT350 in honor of the historic model’s 45th anniversary this year.

A white 2010 Mustang with Ford’s new 5.0-liter V8 is reportedly being used as a developmental mule at Shelby’s Las Vegas design studios. Given that Shelby has already stated it does not intend to produce any 2010 or 2011 Shelby GTs, the company’s production facilities should have plenty of room for a new, higher volume model.

The 5.0-liter V8 car would likely slot in below Shelby’s high-performance Super Snake, which can be ordered with up to 725 horsepower. It’s unlikely that a revived GT350 would produce even as much power as the entry-level 630-horsepower Super Snake, but it will undoubtedly be a healthy upgrade over the standard 412-horsepower 5.0. The Super Snake is expected to stay in production as Shelby’s halo car.
It’s rumored that the new car – whether or not it actually uses the historic GT350 nameplate – will be unveiled at a GT350 45th anniversary gala in Scottsdale, Arizona, on January 18. That invitation-only event serves as the opening party for the annual Barrett-Jackson auction.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Can you imagine a smaller v8 with twin turbo's?
It'd have a kickin sound, be lighter, handle a lot better, and wipe the floor of a lot of bigger displacement engines.
Sign me the **** up

But in the meantime the 5L family has more than enough oomph....
I believe Lotus had one of those and McLaren has one in the works for its upcoming supercar.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
If it comes out, it'll be like the Shelby GT, Super Snake packages...done in Vegas by Shelby and get ready to pay.
The GT350 might be nice but I'm still going to wait for the BOSS/Mach1/whateverSE from Ford.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hi5.0
I believe Lotus had one of those and McLaren has one in the works for its upcoming supercar.
Not sure about the McLaren, but the Lotus V8 had a flat plane crank, like the current Ferrari V8s. They sound nice, but in a "superbike" way. Give me a proper American V8 bellow any day of the week

It'll be interesting to see what configuration the Shelby does take. If it's a breathed on Coyote, it does sound like what we expect the 2012 Boss to be. Didn't Shelby severe his ties with Ford in the very early 70s as Ford had all the Muscle car bases covered? Hopefully there's room for Boss', Shelby's and who knows what else
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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I dislike Shelby American, but I will say I doubt they will use this storied name on a tame car along the lines of a Shelby GT.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hi5.0
I believe Lotus had one of those and McLaren has one in the works for its upcoming supercar.
LOTUS ROCKS!

'99 Lotus Espirit 3.5L V8 TC 350HP Top 178mph




Since the introduction of the Esprit 20 years ago, power, albeit lots of power, has always come from 4-cylinder engines. In 1997, the Esprit doubled its cylinders with an all-new 3.5-liter 32-valve twin-turbocharged V8 engine. The compact engine weighs only 485 pounds, and fits in a space just 28 X 23 X 24 inches. The V8 power plant also churns out 350 horsepower to give the latest Esprit a reported top speed of 178 mph.


(not that it was designed for drag racing but the numbers were 12.85 1/4 @ 110.96) http://www.autofacts.ca/classics/fast.htm

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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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I'm with you, Boomer, I think Coyote will last into the next gen.

Originally Posted by FKA MotorCity Agent
I can't get my mouth to form the sentence with the words "V6" and "Shelby" in it...

Shelby doesn't have any problem saying it:
http://www.shelbyautos.com/vehicles/Terlingua.asp

I'd bet an EB GT-350 would convert plenty of non-believers, but I can't begrudge Shelby for going with the exceptional Coyote.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by topbliss
The GT500's did not rule the strips back then. They were street cars. Rarely ever saw one racing at the track back then. Way too expensive of a car to race when new. The GT350's *were* great track car though..
I didn't mean to imply that the GT500's were widely drag raced back in the day, and I previously pointed out that they weren't tearing up tracks like the GT350's. Their only strength was luxury and big torque for a straight line. Conversely, lots of GT350's were campaigned on road circuits all over.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by eci
I dislike Shelby American, but I will say I doubt they will use this storied name on a tame car along the lines of a Shelby GT.
+1. They charge waaaaaaaay too much for any of their conversions for what you get. As much as I respect what Shelby did 40+ years ago, I do not respect how much he charges to "touch" cars these days.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FKA MotorCity Agent
I can't get my mouth to form the sentence with the words "V6" and "Shelby" in it...

The Terlingua was a V6 with a sueprcharger. I would love to own one of them too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSZibVCUGf8
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Falc'man
From what I've heard it will have the EB3.5.
Originally Posted by Torch_Vert
Don't hold your breath. Ford is NOT going to spend a fortune packaging a completely different engine into the Mustang for limited run model
Originally Posted by MARZ
Considering Falc'man has been pretty much spot-on with all of his previous information...
You were saying?

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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/18/s...rrett-jackson/

$34K on top of the car itself. What a joke.
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