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Old 5/25/10 | 11:08 AM
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I know your not being a smart ***. I'm confused about the 'no spare' for the V-6 too. I don't have 'Brembo Brakes'. I have 18 inch Pony Package wheels that are the same size that come on the standard G.T.

I read somewhere the 'no spare' on the V-6 was to save weight for better gas mileage. I don't think 35-40 pounds weight savings is going to do very much LOL!!!
Wow, they are trying hard to get every mpg out of these cars it seems to the point of pulling the spare and jack. lol I know it all adds up but how much can a donut spare and jack weight? Every jack and lug wrench I have ever seen come with a car I deemed as mickey mouse tools because of the low quality. I mean everybody cheaps out on this. Maybe you can find something out of a junk yard or can you order something from Ford?

I know you got the 3.31 gears David and I am curious what the mileage was on your window sticker?
Old 5/25/10 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lancel
Even my '04 V6 had a spare tire and jack. I use the jack to change the oil, and I once actually had to use that spare. Hit something sharp and metal while I was pulling off along side of the road once and it left a three inch gash in the side wall of one of my tires. I'm not sure Fix-a-Flat would have done me any good in that situation.

My next question: If there's no spare tire on certain models, and these models all use the same body style, what's sitting in place of the spare? Is it just empty space? Those things aren't exactly tiny.
The air pump is the only thing in the round place where the spare would go if i had one LOL!!!
Old 5/25/10 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by chevys
Wow, they are trying hard to get every mpg out of these cars it seems to the point of pulling the spare and jack. lol I know it all adds up but how much can a donut spare and jack weight? Every jack and lug wrench I have ever seen come with a car I deemed as mickey mouse tools because of the low quality. I mean everybody cheaps out on this. Maybe you can find something out of a junk yard or can you order something from Ford?

I know you got the 3.31 gears David and I am curious what the mileage was on your window sticker?
The window sticker has it at 19 and 31. My computer m.p.g. says i'm getting 18.1. I'll be going on a 250 mile drive at the end of next month and will check the gas mileage manually.
Old 5/25/10 | 11:21 AM
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I know it all adds up but how much can a donut spare and jack weight?
Usually around 35 lbs or so, IIRC that is about what it is on my 2001 and 2008 Mustangs (I have the exact numbers out in my garage somewhere)
Old 5/25/10 | 12:08 PM
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I wonder if donuts that fit over the big brakes are available. It's 35 lbs well spent, IMO.
Old 5/25/10 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by David Young
The air pump is the only thing in the round place where the spare would go if i had one LOL!!!
Is there room for a spare? Can you snap a picture?
Old 5/25/10 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fritzOSU03
Is there room for a spare? Can you snap a picture?
Im sure it has the same deep well as the GT. So yes a space saver spare will fit. As a matter of fact Im pretty sure the V6 (Non- Performance Package) uses the 12.4" Brakes from the previous GT. If so the old Steel Spare from a 2005+ GT should work.
Old 5/25/10 | 01:04 PM
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Im sure it has the same deep well as the GT. So yes a space saver spare will fit. As a matter of fact Im pretty sure the V6 (Non- Performance Package) uses the 12.4" Brakes from the previous GT. If so the old Steel Spare from a 2005+ GT should work.
Good to know. I work 25 miles from home and I think the air pump will just sling off the bad tire at some point.
Old 5/25/10 | 01:33 PM
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[IMG]img 0314.jpg[/IMG] Just a pump on a V-6 with regular brakes.
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Old 5/25/10 | 01:35 PM
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Ok, the pump says max 50 MPH. Does it actually stay attached to the wheel while you're driving?
Old 5/25/10 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ministang
For reference sake, the base 2011 GT that Car and Driver tested weighed 3580 lbs (they weigh the cars they test themselves), this was actual curb weight on a very limited option GT, I believe all it had was the Brembo package, spoiler delete and 3.73 gears as options.
The car you referenced also had the Security Package. It was pretty much a fully loaded 300A.


I suspect the lightest car you can buy is a 300A w/ Brembo Package, Spoiler Delete and no other options excepting gears (which should all be very close to the same). On the 2005-2009 the rear spoiler weighed 4.8 lb including hardware. Im not sure about the 2011.

Brembo Package is a net loss of weight. The wheels are heavier but tires lighter. Ive been told the rotors are actually thinner and lighter despite larger diameter (unconfirmed) but that the calipers are heavier (unconfirmed) but the primary diffeence is the removal of the spare tire and jack for a Flat-Fix Kit.

As a matter of fact I suspect the following would be no heavier than my car:
400A GT Premium
Brembo Package
3.73 Axle Ratio
Spoiler Delete
Old 5/25/10 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by David Young
The window sticker has it at 19 and 31. My computer m.p.g. says i'm getting 18.1. I'll be going on a 250 mile drive at the end of next month and will check the gas mileage manually.
100% In-Town driving including beating on it some interspaced with my notorious high-mileage short-shifting my 5.0 GT went 259.5 miles (From 5.0 miles to 264.5 miles) on 13.00 Gal so 19.96 mpg.

My Info Center said 18.0 mpg because I didnt reset it from all the idling around it did at the plant, during transport and during dealer prep. So far on this tank the Info Center stands at 21.0 mpg.

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Old 5/25/10 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fritzOSU03
Ok, the pump says max 50 MPH. Does it actually stay attached to the wheel while you're driving?
Are you kidding?

No, you don't drive with the bloody thing attached to the wheel. You follow the fine directions in the manual, putting in the goop and then pumping up the tire. Drive a bit, then recheck the pressure and adjust as necessary. IIRC, the fix is good for up to 200 miles of driving at no faster than 50 MPH. It's only a temporary fix and the tire WILL need to be replaced.
Old 5/25/10 | 03:47 PM
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I'd rather have the spare and possibly have to move one wheel to the front, as was mentioned by someone else. I'm mainly disappointed that I'll have to buy a car jack now to change my own oil.

Addendum: Especially considering the price on those Pirelli tires.

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Old 5/25/10 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by trane
Are you kidding?

No, you don't drive with the bloody thing attached to the wheel. You follow the fine directions in the manual, putting in the goop and then pumping up the tire. Drive a bit, then recheck the pressure and adjust as necessary. IIRC, the fix is good for up to 200 miles of driving at no faster than 50 MPH. It's only a temporary fix and the tire WILL need to be replaced.
Seemed pretty ridiculous to me too until I heard about the goop. It might seem like a stupid question to you but do you see a can of goop next to the pump in that picture? I sure don't.

Seems like a bit of a scheme to me considering that you have to replace the TPMS sensor at over $70 any time you have a flat.
Old 5/25/10 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by David Young
[IMG]img 0314.jpg[/IMG] Just a pump on a V-6 with regular brakes.
The GT500 has had this since 2007! It's a nice little pump.
Old 5/25/10 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fritzOSU03
Seemed pretty ridiculous to me too until I heard about the goop. It might seem like a stupid question to you but do you see a can of goop next to the pump in that picture? I sure don't.
I'm pretty sure the can is held in the space underneath where the 50 MPH sticker is.

Seems like a bit of a scheme to me considering that you have to replace the TPMS sensor at over $70 any time you have a flat.
If I were a V6 owner, I'd be very tempted to drop into a junkyard and get the spare, jack and toolkit out of a trashed 2010. While these kits might work fine, I take great solace in having a proper spare. Keep the pump/goop handy in case the spare fails, which has happened to me before.
Old 5/25/10 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by David Young
The window sticker has it at 19 and 31. My computer m.p.g. says i'm getting 18.1. I'll be going on a 250 mile drive at the end of next month and will check the gas mileage manually.
thanks David. I am still off and on with gears. I really appreciate your iimput. I want a five liter but your coments are very very important. Thank you for them and kee p them coming. It all adds up.

right now, I feel like a lost lamb.
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Originally Posted by trane
If I were a V6 owner, I'd be very tempted to drop into a junkyard and get the spare, jack and toolkit out of a trashed 2010. While these kits might work fine, I take great solace in having a proper spare. Keep the pump/goop handy in case the spare fails, which has happened to me before.
I couldn't agree more. I've never had a car that comes equipped with my very own can of fix-a-flat!
Old 5/25/10 | 05:10 PM
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wow you are correct, all i have is a pump can of fix a flat and a sticker that said "50 mph MAX" LOL
Had that crap in my Bullitt. Thats a joke if you actually drive the car . Go pick up a cheapy spare and save yourself some grief down the road. I know on the 08 you could mod the trunk panel a little and get a full size 18" spare with no air in it and keep the pump in the trunk to air it up.


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