The sooner the better !!

 

One way to get a good deal is to get an X-Plan PIN, as the price is fixed no matter when you place the order. With X-Plan, you will also receive any rebates that are available when you take delivery of your car. One way to get a pin is to have been holding 100 shares of Ford stock for at least 6 months, another way is to go over to Blue Oval Forums and request one from a Ford employee. Those PIN's are only good for 30 days, so it's best if you first find a dealer that is willing to order/sell a car for you on X-Plan.

Read the X-Plan FAQ here:

 

Chris, look at the copy i just pasted. Looks like in his first quote, he did include preperation, delivery and some other "dossier" thing. Not gas obviously, and what is FDAF ? Anyways have a look at it and tell me what you think.
Bonjour Daniel,

Avec l’autorisation de mon patron, j’ai appelé notre directeur régional des ventes qui m’a confirmé que nous aurons plus d’allocations le mois prochain ce qui me permet de baisser mon prix de $500 à $ 40,491.

Nous n’avons pas encore reçu les programmes et taux qui seront en vigueur pour la Mustang 2011 mais je vous promet de vous faire parvenir ces informations aussitôt que nous allons les recevoir.

N.B. : Sur une commande, vous aurez automatiquement droit à tous les rabais qui seront en vigueur au moment de la livraison.

À bientôt,





Ostiguy Ford Lincoln
400 boul. Richelieu (rte 112)
Richelieu, Qc, J3L 3R8
Tel: 450-658-1717
Fax: 450-447-5037

www.ostiguyford.com


De : Daniel Charbonneau [mailto:musman302@hotmail.com]
Envoyé : 17 février 2010 18:16
Objet : RE: 2011


Salut Jean,
Merci de ton retour de message.
Pour répondre à ta question, oui j'ai eu l'occasion de prendre connaissance de deux autre prix avec les memes options. Vous etes pas mal tous dans le meme coin , à vrai dire, je m'attendais à un meilleur rabais en pensant que Martin avec ces achats de véhicules pèseraient un peu plus dans la balançe, puisque que c'est lui qui m'a référé à toi. Mais bon, je suis patient et veux etre sur de mon choix bien évidemment.
Étais-ce un prix plancher en ce qui te concerne ? Laisse le moi savoir.
Aussi je suis en procédure pour vendre ma Mach1 1969. Alors je me demandait si je paierais la 2011 "cash" ou avec un financement avantageux, si bien sur Ford vous les a envoyés.
Merci de ton temps.
Daniel



To: musman302@hotmail.com
Subject: 2011
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:36:34 -0500
Bonjour Daniel,

Comme je n’ai pas eu de vos nouvelles, j’extrapole que je ne suis pas dans le prix. C’est possible car j’ai dû établir mon prix en fonction de nos allocations de Mustang 2011 et j’ai voulu éviter de placer une commande qui ne serait disponible que dans 4 à 5 mois.

Par curiosité, y a-t-il une grande différence prix par rapport aux autres que vous avez eu ?

Bonne route,



Ostiguy Ford Lincoln
400 boul. Richelieu (rte 112)
Richelieu, Qc, J3L 3R8
Tel: 450-658-1717
Fax: 450-447-5037



Envoyé : 12 février 2010 15:20
À : 'musman302@hotmail.com'
Objet : 2011


Bonjour Daniel,


Ford Mustang GT coupe 2011 avec les options

• 55D
• 457
• 43s
• 51h
• PDSF : $ 43,099

Votre prix : $ 40,991 plus taxes moins tous les programmes applicables à la livraison.
Transport et préparat ion inclus; aucun frais de dossier.

Lien : http://ostiguyford.dealerconnection.com/futur/

Bonne fin de semaine,



Ostiguy Ford Lincoln
400 boul. Richelieu (rte 112)
Richelieu, Qc, J3L 3R8
Tel: 450-658-1717
Fax: 450-447-5037

 

Ok Dan, after working it out, the original 43099$ MSRP quote includes delivery and AC tax. The FDAF fee I mentioned is an advertising fee that I have seen used in US invoice quotes. It may be that the fee is rolled into our much larger destination and delivery charge, but I am just guessing at that.

Anyway, getting back to your configuration:

The invoice less holdback price is 38808$, the invoice with holdback price is 39641$, and MSRP is 43099$. Thus his offer of 40491$ is 850$ over the "Invoice" price, and there is room to manoeuver.

Also, from his emails, Jean seems to be saying that your order would count against his allocation. We've heard from Jeff that this is not normally the case, special orders are separate. Things may be different in Canada though. Maybe you could just ask him about that. Tell him that you read on the Internet that special orders don't count against the allocation, and that if that's true then your order would not take away from the cars they will be able to sell to other customers. see how he responds.

 

'ya da man Chris, thanks for the input....I'll investigate.

 

would anyone know if for 2011 they would offer auto in "2 door coupe value leader"

2010 there is no option for auto tranny with this model

 

Thanks for the great info and link. I'm surprised to hear people will just "give" you a PIN...

Might be complicated for me. I live overseas and I'm not even sure how I will order a car. I can't really register and insure it in my name for non-resident tax reasons. My plan so far is to contact dealers by e-mail then have a relative actually order/buy the car in their name then I'll schedule my vacation around when it arrives to pick it up! Suppose I'd need to request a PIN in the relative's name. Maybe I'll need to get on to the Blue Oval Forums and enquire over there to see if this is even possible. Jeff

 

Yes, it is!

 

I found a CDN dealer offering Invoice pricing on all factory orders.

I e-mailed to confirm this would apply to 2011 stangs, they said "Yes"!

When I gave them the details of what I wanted ordered and asked for the price, they responded with, "I am having to wait for the 2011 order list. It should be available soon. Once I have that I will contact you."

Strange. Do you think they are talking about the Order Guide? They should have that if I do... What else could be the hold-up?

No big deal, I want to wait another month or two anyhow.

 

No idea... they are able to price one out now.

 

You could do him a favour and send him the documents...

 

Haven't had my e-mails answered regarding the "order list" yet. I've moved on and gotten a couple other quotes. The one I'm closest to includes a $399 "doc fee" and a $20 tire tax. No A/C tax though...

Is this "doc fee" legit, over and above the $1350 D&D, something like the FDAF that's been mentioned, or is it just a method of padding pockets?

I've been quoted 12-20 weeks delivery too! I need to get this thing done, or wait till next year...

 

I have no idea what the "order list" is. There is a Canadian "Order Guide" out on these forums though.
All cars have the A/C tax, it's on the window sticker and is a federal tax, so it must be paid (can't get a Mustang without A/C)

We haven't had a friendly Canadian dealer here to give us all the details, but I suspect the FDAF (an advertising fee) is included in the invoice pricing. If you compare the CAD and US Invoice and MSRP prices, you will see that the Canadian margins are quite a bit smaller than in the US, which makes me think the extra costs are rolled into the Canadian Invoice prices. As such, a doc fee is likely purely dealer profit.

 

Here's the explanation from my dealer: "The documentation fee is for the administration work resulting from the deal". Which seems to tanslate to "purely dealer profit" as you suggested.

They won't budge from about 350 under MSRP either. I don't understand why they wouldn't want to make some money off of me rather than none.

My options now are:

1. Solicit all other dealers in the area with e-mails, offering my highest price (about 1200 over invoice) to take it or leave it.
2. Beg for an X-plan pin.
3. Further investigate cross-border shopping.

 

I experienced this "admin fee" when I bought my car (used) only they didn't tell me about it upfront. It made me so mad, you negotiate a deal at a certain price and then they print up the sales invoice and tack on $400. I absolutely refused to pay it so they showed me other sales invoices saying "everybody pays it". I told them to eff off. In the end, they worked the numbers to show that the full admin fee was paid but I only ended up paying $150 of it and they threw in free oil changes for 5 years.