2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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Looks okay, but I'm not a big fan of cowl hoods.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 10:17 PM
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First, I like it. It's pretty keen! I too am curious if it'll go on a 05-09... However... this concept of it's a cowl?

Illusion. Optical trickery. This is, of course, my own opinion, but observe.

The new one:
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/attach...3&d=1219934676

And then look at the 2005 hood:
http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/time...05/0914-53.jpg

Now... notice anything?

Namely... the absence of the rearward "spines" from about halfway down the hood. Starting just behind the 'caution tape to the rear of the hood... they're gone. Amazingly enough, to me, the cowl area, when adjusted based on this bit of missing rise at the end, now looks like it's about the same height as the current hood's max height. Maybe 1/2 an inch taller, but I kinda doubt it's that much. It's more dramatic, obviously, but I'm bettin' it's not all that much difference.

That, coupled with the whole "We're doing this and that to make it look smaller at the corners" (If I remember that correctly) makes me believe that it's not truly a cowl, but a design trick to make it look like one.

Doesn't mean I don't want it on my car, though. It's very killer lookin'. The Awesome would look awesome with one.

/proof'll be in the puddin' eh?
//The cleanup is awesome, btw!
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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houtex, you're right on the money. The hood will not be raised too much below the windshield.
The 2010 pushes the sheetmetal down toward the front of the car so the "cowl" (Chevy Term)
does not sit that much higher than todays car.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 05:53 AM
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That would be one of the 'illusions' that the car is smaller as well.
Lower hoodline, and big powerdome, that isn't really THAT high.

Think E46 M3 size, maybe slightly taller
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 06:21 AM
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I like it.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 06:30 AM
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I would bet you would need the fenders and full front to get it to look right on our cars.


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I'd be REAL CURIOUS, if this is able to fit the 2005-2009 models. I may be reaching a tad, but if the fenders are in the same location, only different from the outside, and the hood is the same size, and the curvature is the same, then maybe, just maybe, it may just fit out cars. If that could be the case, can anyone say TAKE-OFF PART!!!
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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I like the new hood.. possible changes would appear on the way..

However, I always wanted to have a functional vents or air extractors in the hood from Ford..

I see that more info on the 2010 Mustag will come out (leak) within September and October
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Hani
I like the new hood.. possible changes would appear on the way..

However, I always wanted to have a functional vents or air extractors in the hood from Ford..

I see that more info on the 2010 Mustag will come out (leak) within September and October
That's what the GT500 is for.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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that's a hawt looking hood, is it Nov. yet!!!?!
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 12:48 AM
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Looks like a Chevy hood ... (LOL) ... BUMMER
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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"cowl" is not a Chevy term. Its the definition of the area below the windshield and above the firewall. GM products, like the Camaro, offered "Cowl Induction" hoods in the sixties, because aerodynamically, the greatest pressure of ( and coolest ) air is at the cowl area when the car is driving. This was the "cold air induction" of the sixties.

I was told the shape of this hood was frozen before the Camaro concept was ever shown, and it was done to break up the "domed" appearance of today's hood.


Originally Posted by Topnotch
houtex, you're right on the money. The hood will not be raised too much below the windshield.
The 2010 pushes the sheetmetal down toward the front of the car so the "cowl" (Chevy Term)
does not sit that much higher than todays car.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hani
However, I always wanted to have a functional vents or air extractors in the hood from Ford..
Yeah, same here. I always liked vents more versus scoops and cowls.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 06:52 AM
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The Ford Woodhaven Stamping Plant makes the aluminum hoods for the stang. They are still running the 09 hoods, however there are 2 hoods just like in the picture in beginning of thread set up for first runs I am assuming. They are raised in the center as most of you realize. They look great.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolfsburg
Yeah, same here. I always liked vents more versus scoops and cowls.
Scoops are ok if they are functional. If not they are just some tacky add-on.

This hood looks great. Can't wait to see the whole car.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gnat-sum
"cowl" is not a Chevy term. Its the definition of the area below the windshield and above the firewall. GM products, like the Camaro, offered "Cowl Induction" hoods in the sixties, because aerodynamically, the greatest pressure of ( and coolest ) air is at the cowl area when the car is driving. This was the "cold air induction" of the sixties.
You So Smart!
I know every car has a cowl. We're talking about the "cowl hood" that they're using to describe the
2010 Mustang hood. Chevy coined the term back in the sixties.




I sometimes use this too.
http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/index.htm

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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Sweet a confirmation that this hood is legit
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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Lovin' the cowl!
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Topnotch
You So Smart!
I know every car has a cowl. We're talking about the "cowl hood" that they're using to describe the
2010 Mustang hood. Chevy coined the term back in the sixties.

I sometimes use this too.
http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/index.htm
I don't use that, because I learned the correct definition of parts of a car in design school. Notice your dictionary link doesn't show a term for "cowl hood". If you re-read your first post, you say:

Originally Posted by Topnotch
The 2010 pushes the sheetmetal down toward the front of the car so the "cowl" (Chevy Term)
does not sit that much higher than todays car.
I was merely stating that "cowl" is not a Chevy term. As you said, it applies to every car and has for a long time.
http://books.google.com/books?id=yLZ...esult#PPA61,M1

Lots of luxury makes had dual-cowl designs in the 1930s, including Duesenberg, Imperial, Cadillac, and Bentley:
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/2...l-Phaeton.html


As for "cowl hood", this is a shortened version of "cowl induction hood", which yes, was a Chevy feature in the sixties. But since you want to get technical about car design, you cannot have a "cowl hood" as these are two separate items. This is basic transportation design 101:
http://www.eyeson.org/blind/eo_dio/n...ew_eod_04c.htm



Anyway, this "feature" in car design was adopted by everyone in the sixties/early 70s as it helped give the impression of more power, but unlike non-functional hood scoops, it did not trap air under the hood.



It's not a Chevy design feature only- many cars including past Mustangs used this design:

BTW, can you believe this whitewall-tired Fox has a vinyl roof w/ a 5.0 ??
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Like I said...

...You So Smart!

What designs have you done that I can see on the road?
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