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$1300 to install 3.73's? Wut?

Old Jul 20, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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$1300 to install 3.73's? Wut?

Anyone in the NOVA area can recommend a good place to get 3.73's installed that I might order online?

A Ford dealership (not one that I ordered my car from) quoted me 1300$ in LABOR to install 3.73's.



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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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Labor for a gear install should be about $270-300, normally. Typically it's about 3 hours of labor for a competent installer.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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My dealer quoted me 600. Blech.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 06GT
Labor for a gear install should be about $270-300, normally. Typically it's about 3 hours of labor for a competent installer.
Don't forget the flash tuner you would need. That's another 350 to 400 dollars right there.

I wonder if the dealers price includes all that.

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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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No clue. Also not sure if it would void my warranty. As fun as the 3.73's are, I might take a pass after all this crap.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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If you break your driveline, they'll use that mod to void your warranty.

$1300 is way too much. You should probably send the car back and reorder with the 3.73's. And get the V6 so you can get better than 12 MPG.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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The ford flash tuner for the 2011 is not ready yet. The local frpp dealer told me it should be 1 to 2 months. They quoted me about $500 and thats including the gears and flash tune.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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I'll install them for $250! Just drive to kentucky
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jokerstars
Anyone in the NOVA area can recommend a good place to get 3.73's installed that I might order online?

A Ford dealership (not one that I ordered my car from) quoted me 1300$ in LABOR to install 3.73's.



Um. Yeah.
That's just a sign they don't want to do it -- for one, the average dealership doesn't have the time/tools to do a proper diff gear setup and second when they do it they'll have to warranty it (for the balance of your 60000 miles). A lot of shops will outsource that work. Most times the dealer only has to work with a pre-setup diff carrier or a whole rear axle -- because if you were replacing a diff under warranty that's what Ford would send them. It takes a good amount of time to properly set and shim a set of gears, they're not just a remove and replace deal.

I do that sometimes in my trade (electrical); if the customer has historically been a PITA or the job is a clusterfrack then you throw out some outrageously high price to either (a) scare the person away or (b) make it worth your while if they bite.

Sounds mean, but if you look at it from my perspective, I've "donated" countless unpaid hours because a customer couldn't decide on a design plan. I'm an electrician, not your interior decorator. Give me a plan, I'll wire it. If you want me to hold your hand while we stroll through Home Depot while you decide on what kind of chandelier you want, fine -- but the meter's running!
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jokerstars
No clue. Also not sure if it would void my warranty. As fun as the 3.73's are, I might take a pass after all this crap.

If it's done by Ford they'll back it up. If it's done by some other place, then Ford has to prove that faulty install or parts on the modification caused the problem.

So say your radio breaks, Ford has to prove that your gears caused the radio to die. LOL.

So if anything goes wrong with the driveline it's on you unless you can prove otherwise.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by OAC_Sparky
That's just a sign they don't want to do it -- for one, the average dealership doesn't have the time/tools to do a proper diff gear setup and second when they do it they'll have to warranty it (for the balance of your 60000 miles). A lot of shops will outsource that work. Most times the dealer only has to work with a pre-setup diff carrier or a whole rear axle -- because if you were replacing a diff under warranty that's what Ford would send them. It takes a good amount of time to properly set and shim a set of gears, they're not just a remove and replace deal.

I do that sometimes in my trade (electrical); if the customer has historically been a PITA or the job is a clusterfrack then you throw out some outrageously high price to either (a) scare the person away or (b) make it worth your while if they bite.

Sounds mean, but if you look at it from my perspective, I've "donated" countless unpaid hours because a customer couldn't decide on a design plan. I'm an electrician, not your interior decorator. Give me a plan, I'll wire it. If you want me to hold your hand while we stroll through Home Depot while you decide on what kind of chandelier you want, fine -- but the meter's running!


They call that the F U price
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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I'll install them for $250! Just drive to kentucky
YOU can install diff gears? Really? Move to VA, I need a wife with those skills. But don't tell your fiancee.

Originally Posted by OAC_Sparky
That's just a sign they don't want to do it -- for one, the average dealership doesn't have the time/tools to do a proper diff gear setup and second when they do it they'll have to warranty it (for the balance of your 60000 miles). A lot of shops will outsource that work. Most times the dealer only has to work with a pre-setup diff carrier or a whole rear axle -- because if you were replacing a diff under warranty that's what Ford would send them. It takes a good amount of time to properly set and shim a set of gears, they're not just a remove and replace deal.

I do that sometimes in my trade (electrical); if the customer has historically been a PITA or the job is a clusterfrack then you throw out some outrageously high price to either (a) scare the person away or (b) make it worth your while if they bite.

Sounds mean, but if you look at it from my perspective, I've "donated" countless unpaid hours because a customer couldn't decide on a design plan. I'm an electrician, not your interior decorator. Give me a plan, I'll wire it. If you want me to hold your hand while we stroll through Home Depot while you decide on what kind of chandelier you want, fine -- but the meter's running!
I think Sparky hit the nail on the head. And I absolutely LOVE the way he thinks. KA-CHING! Sometimes stupid should just cost money.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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YOU can install diff gears? Really? Move to VA, I need a wife with those skills. But don't tell your fiancee.
Hahaha, well I wouldn't do it without my dad being around. All the mods we did together to my 03, even the cams and the 4.10's. We are going to start building a foxbody soon as well.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Why is a flash needed? Isn't speed calculated from wheel speed sensors? If so, changing a gear should have no effect on the speedometer.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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Why is a flash needed? Isn't speed calculated from wheel speed sensors? If so, changing a gear should have no effect on the speedometer.
Vehicle speed is calculated from the transmission.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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You were originally going to buy a V6. Then you said a 3.31 GT would be plenty. Now you want 3.73s? lol

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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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I'll install them for $250! Just drive to kentucky


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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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Do it! $1300 is a steal!




The 3.31s are fine to me. When I can afford mods I'll start with tune and CAI
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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I want more power below 3800 rpm!
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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Then push your right foot down farther, its free

Tune&CAI costs less than gears in your case lol
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