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Old 1/8/08, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT
TwinForce was a great name. It was a mistake to change it to EcoBoost - which may be more generally descriptive of what the new engines represent - but sounds completely gay.
If the engines perform as good as expected I don't care if they call the engine(s) "Two Hairdryers", "Tandem Screws", or my favorite per Boomer "BunnyPower".
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Now -this- is interesting, if you ask me:

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V8's will stil exist, but they will be completely absent from FWD based (transverse mounted ) vehicles. V8's will still be there for trucks, Expedition, Mustang and future RWD cars. However, Ford will do its best to steer customers to the EcoBoost and TwinForce engines.

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Old 1/8/08, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tacbear
Did you notice "340+ hp". And if the 3.5 is 340+, the 3.7 will be 360+. Yes I would pimp a Mustang with 360hp+/360ftlb+ and 150 pounds off the front end. That would bring the Mustang v6 pretty close to 50/50 weight distribution.
I don't believe that Ford has comitted to a 3.7L version of the TF let alone putting either a 3.5TF or 3.7TF in the Mustang.
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So when is Ford going to get cracking on putting DI on their normally aspirated engines. With DI the 4.6 3V would run at least 340 HP and get 2 MPH better mileage.
I think DI in whatever engine is clearly a technology of the future. While the Ecoboost/Twinforce may find a place in a Stang, there will of course always be a market for a V8. As to V8 DI potential, look no further than Audi which is pumping out 340 in the 4.2l S4 and some 420 hp in the R4, all naturally aspirated.

But a 420hp TwinForce, TwinClutch, IRS and be-Brembo'ed Boss Mustang road racer could be very interesting indeed, a real M3 fighter for undoubtedly a whole lot less.
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Originally Posted by 05MustangFanII
Now -this- is interesting, if you ask me:

(Posted by Igor)

V8's will stil exist, but they will be completely absent from FWD based (transverse mounted ) vehicles. V8's will still be there for trucks, Expedition, Mustang and future RWD cars. However, Ford will do its best to steer customers to the EcoBoost and TwinForce engines.

Igor
Insiders have said that EcoBoost won't be the only GTDI label, that there will be a more performance-oriented badge using the same tech with a more aggressive tune and that it will inherit the TwinForce nomenclature. Should encompass the 5L GTDI V8
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They can steer me all the want....

I want one...

And call it twin force...
Old 1/8/08, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rhumb
But a 420hp TwinForce, TwinClutch, IRS and be-Brembo'ed Boss Mustang road racer could be very interesting indeed, a real M3 fighter for undoubtedly a whole lot less.
If a Mustang offered all of that it wouldn't be a WHOLE lot less. Then there would be the ADMs...
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Originally Posted by rhumb
I think DI in whatever engine is clearly a technology of the future. While the Ecoboost/Twinforce may find a place in a Stang, there will of course always be a market for a V8. As to V8 DI potential, look no further than Audi which is pumping out 340 in the 4.2l S4 and some 420 hp in the R4, all naturally aspirated.
Yes it's obvious that DI belongs across the entire Ford gasoline engine line. The question is when will Ford get on the case with its NA engines including the V8s. Ford is 2 - 4 years behind the competition with DI.

Hopefully, the rumored 5.0 Mod Motor, coming someday to the Mustang, will have DI. DI would make it capable of approaching 400 HP with the same or better MPG than today's 4.6 - 3V.

A TwinForce DI 5.0 would also out perform today's 5.4 SC GT-500 motor.

If the Mustang is still selling in numbers that can justify 4 engines, imagine this lineup in the next Stang, starting with a base V6 that will almost match today's GT in performance with 25% better gas mileage than today's V6.

3.5L V6 NA DI- DOHC - 290 HP
3.5L V6 DI EcoBoost - 350 HP
5.0 V8 NA DI 3V - 400 HP
5.0 V8 TwinForce DI DOHC - 500+ HP
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From what i've heard, the 5.0 will just be a bigger 4.6, with 320-350 hp
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Originally Posted by 05MustangFanII
From what i've heard, the 5.0 will just be a bigger 4.6, with 320-350 hp
Bzzzzzzz wrong

People hear 'its based on' and think its automatically just a bigger 4.6

It's NOT
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