Interesting. But wouldn't AWD's be the same with their CVJ's?

 

No one? Really!?

 

dont move creep lol

 

dead or alive you're coming with me

 

Thank you for your cooperation

 

I HATE FWD outside a hatch.

 

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/22/c...s-in-official/

typical GM BS. Can't wait to see the real results

 

are those interior pictures showing these "specially designed seats"? look like normal seats to me

 

Not saying GM isn't full of BS but the Caprice isn't a BS car. It's one of the least BS cars around. It's a **** SHAME that the G8 didn't catch on in the U.S. like it should have. Just proves that the good ole' days of muscle sedans like the late 60's Malibu sedans are dead. Guess it's left up to the uber pricey BMW and MB likes. I think space Jesus wept when American's lost interest in bad *** sedans.

 

Who says Americans don't like Badass sedans? Ford is selling more SHOs than they thought they would, the CTS all but on its own resurrected Cadillac. The Charger survived despite it's glaring flaws chiefly because of it's "muscular" features. Americans like their beefy sedans fine, just like the failure of the "New GTO" didn't mean anything other than the GTO was a failure, the G8's failure is the G8's failure.

GM's problems come from being myopic, and the Caprice is a great example. How much money is GM spending to ship these cars over to the US and install US-built engines in them, only to miss something completely fundamental:
from Jalopnik

 

I think we are on different pages about this subject. My focus is more on the inexpensive V8 RWD sedans of days past. You can SHO me all the facts you want but that's still not the type of sedan I am referring to. The Caprice follows the footsteps of the high powered grocery getters of days past. The CTS is just appealing to those who didn't want to buy a BMW. It hasn't convinced me that the good ole days have returned. When I look in my parking lot at work, it's an easy 6:1 ratio of FWD vehicles to any others. And that's in Texas. Personally I will never like the Taurus. That's great that some do, rock it out, but not me. The SHO could come with 500Hp and run with the GTR but I'd still choose GTR. I just hate the Taurus. I can respect it but not love it. I actually haven't seen a single SHO on the road so I don't know where they are selling. I'd like to test drive one but I don't want to buy one. Just to see what the performance does feel like. Hell I'm even glad Ford resurrected the SHO.
Anyway, maybe I'm not thinking as fashion forward as I should be. I will try to be more open. But you guys can't tell me that a Galaxie RWD sedan wouldn't be cool? I guess just me. Ok, take your Taurus, I'll take a cab, at least it's a Crown Vic.

 

I'm not trying to tweak you, Kelsey, I just wanted to point out that "badass sedans" are sticking around even if they aren't he same as they ever were. You're absolutely right, the days of cheap, no-amenities RWD sedans being the bread and butter of the American market are long gone. Most people would prefer their DD/grocery-getter to be comfortable, safe, and efficient and either have a second vehicle to have fun with or have all of the above hand-in-hand with their fun, hence vehicles like the SHO.

Personally, if I needed/wanted to buy a sedan as big as the Caprice or SHO I'd go SHO all day long. AWD, tolerable fuel economy, and a prairie-flat torque curve? Yes please.

Not for long:

 

Hahahahahahahaha! So I sadly have a soft spot for the Transit Connect. So cuddly!

I totally agree with your statement about the sedans now. I do see that times are a changin' and probably for the better. I will say that I can't believe that the Taurus SHO is on an AWD platform, that is actually, very cool. As it is probably the only American car that's an affordable performance sedan, I shouldn't mark it off my list without proper judgment. I also wasn't thinking about the turbos!

 

Looks like we won the LAPD test
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/11/19/f...est/#continued

 

KSP is testing Taurus sedans right now too, and I can tell you that unless somebody had a serious change of heart Charger is absolutely out of the running already. This is a gamble for Ford, but I think people are short sighted to think it's a gamble based on sheer chance. Some thought was put into this.

 

Agreed. Everyone complains of the charger's durability. And what ever happened to the BMW-powered carbon motors car? I kinda figured they'd flop.

I hope this works out for Ford. Fleet sales are very important.

It was a big risk to not offer a RWD V8, but it looks like its working out for them...

 

Nice!

But I still don't understand Ford having a 3.5 V6, 3.7 V6, 3.5 Eco-Boost.

 

If Carbon Motors makes a car, it will be a 2012 model.