2008 Ford Focus ST...
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Wow, this really makes it clear that the overall profile is actually very good and that the new Focus is a looker...from the a-pillar back. The weak link is that seriously over-wrought front fascia, and perhaps the goofy vents in the front fender. I'd love to see what one of these would look like with some larger wheelas and tires and an angrier, sportier take on the Fusions front clip. If done correctly this could easily be the best looking car in this class.
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A-pillar back the 08 is like the 1-series: funky but not really
in a bad way. I think Top does a good job making what's there look better but I bet it'd look really good if he didn't have to start with such crappy looks to begin with.
in a bad way. I think Top does a good job making what's there look better but I bet it'd look really good if he didn't have to start with such crappy looks to begin with.
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BTW Topnotch, the removal of the 'gills' is a huge improvement. Except for the schnoz, which might be beyond the ability of DaVinci to fix without siomply trashing the starting point and beginning anew, what you have wrought is really a looker. I'm impressed.
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The rear wheelwell is also tiny, reminds me of the Echo and first gen Prius.
Nobody is going to buy a car that you have to spend 5k in custom mods to make it look "decent".
Ford built this decades Gremlin/Aztec/Yugo..
Heads should roll over this, this isn't how you turn a company around, I'm sure the import crowd will be trding in their cars for this gem..
Nobody is going to buy a car that you have to spend 5k in custom mods to make it look "decent".
Ford built this decades Gremlin/Aztec/Yugo..
Heads should roll over this, this isn't how you turn a company around, I'm sure the import crowd will be trding in their cars for this gem..
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It's amazing how much of a difference adding a third bar to the grille and getting rid of the stupid notch in the headlights really make on this car.
I'm still not sure why Ford decided to try designing a replacement for the Saturn Ion...
I'm still not sure why Ford decided to try designing a replacement for the Saturn Ion...
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Agreed, not an original part on that nose. The headlights look like a bad update on the II gen Contour's eyes.
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An improvement, though that's about all that could happen to the Focus, but still putting lipstick on a pig. I think the best that can be said for the '08 Focus is that it's a penny-pinching carry over, as evidenced by the fact that they gave the redesign task to some very junior stylists, that'll bide time until the next stem-to-stern redesign comes around in two-three years. Look for these clotting up rental car lots for the next couple years.
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An improvement, though that's about all that could happen to the Focus, but still putting lipstick on a pig. I think the best that can be said for the '08 Focus is that it's a penny-pinching carry over, as evidenced by the fact that they gave the redesign task to some very junior stylists, that'll bide time until the next stem-to-stern redesign comes around in two-three years. Look for these clotting up rental car lots for the next couple years.
In fact Topnotch's render has so convinced me of this cars potential that I might actually buy one.
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It sounds like Ford is listening to the consumers:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/09/24/f...umer-backlash/
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/09/24/f...umer-backlash/
Personally, I think they should have shown something earlier, or done more focus group testing, in order to allow themselves time to fix it. Top has shown just how little has/had to be done to get this to a good-looking car, and I'm just shocked noone figured out that it didn't look good BEFORE the Show.
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Begs interesting questions: Which is better, immediately responding to feedback and implementing small fixes before it hits market, or doing a crash-redesign as with 500 and getting it more fixed a couple years down the road? Will we see both with this car, or will they just leave it on life support until the C2 Focus?
Personally, I think they should have shown something earlier, or done more focus group testing, in order to allow themselves time to fix it. Top has shown just how little has/had to be done to get this to a good-looking car, and I'm just shocked noone figured out that it didn't look good BEFORE the Show.
Personally, I think they should have shown something earlier, or done more focus group testing, in order to allow themselves time to fix it. Top has shown just how little has/had to be done to get this to a good-looking car, and I'm just shocked noone figured out that it didn't look good BEFORE the Show.
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If you read the comments on the autoblog article, it's all a "import sport compact" fanboys who are overreacting and condemning the refresh because its not the C1 Focus. These people would probably wouldn't buy a Focus anyway, simply because it's a Ford.
I'm so sick of hearing all the moaning about how we don't get the C1 Focus in the US. The C2 will be here in few years and they can all have a Eurogasm. Buy a freaking Mazda 3 or whatever Volvo that is C1 based if it's so important to have the C1 chassis.
I'm so sick of hearing all the moaning about how we don't get the C1 Focus in the US. The C2 will be here in few years and they can all have a Eurogasm. Buy a freaking Mazda 3 or whatever Volvo that is C1 based if it's so important to have the C1 chassis.
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If you read the comments on the autoblog article, it's all a "import sport compact" fanboys who are overreacting and condemning the refresh because its not the C1 Focus. These people would probably wouldn't buy a Focus anyway, simply because it's a Ford.
I'm so sick of hearing all the moaning about how we don't get the C1 Focus in the US. The C2 will be here in few years and they can all have a Eurogasm. Buy a freaking Mazda 3 or whatever Volvo that is C1 based if it's so important to have the C1 chassis.
I'm so sick of hearing all the moaning about how we don't get the C1 Focus in the US. The C2 will be here in few years and they can all have a Eurogasm. Buy a freaking Mazda 3 or whatever Volvo that is C1 based if it's so important to have the C1 chassis.
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One or two things to remember, the Focus is our smallest and least expensive Ford in the US, there are 2 smaller, cheaper cars under it in Europe.
Our Focus has to compete against a large group of sub $15K cars. Hyundais and such. The Euro Focus is like $17-23K. So it has to be done economically. It's mission here is a different.
Also, it's still a **** good chassis. It handles very very well. I'm not thrilled with the new front end styling (how many angles are there?) and they should bring back the wagon/estate.
Our Focus has to compete against a large group of sub $15K cars. Hyundais and such. The Euro Focus is like $17-23K. So it has to be done economically. It's mission here is a different.
Also, it's still a **** good chassis. It handles very very well. I'm not thrilled with the new front end styling (how many angles are there?) and they should bring back the wagon/estate.
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I never understood Focus bashing, the platform is much more modern and sturdier then the corolla And it prices with Hyundai's, not Hondas/Toyotas, or Mazdas. Its only a short run until the C2, and actually quite a large investment. I think a lot of people that complain have little exposure to automobiles. Most of the issues with the Focus were UNDOING problems from it being a european market car. I've driven thousands of Foci Corollas Civics hyundai's, kias, mazda 3's and protoge's etc etc etc...new and used. There ain't a lot special about a lot of the competitor's cars when you spend more time with them in person then reading an article in R&T on the can.
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