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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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does the 2003-2004 Mach 1 have IRS? or live?

I watched an old ep of car and driver tv, and one of the editors claims it has the same Independent Rear as the Cobra. My search online says otherwise. Who's right??
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by crayonbreaking
I watched an old ep of car and driver tv, and one of the editors claims it has the same Independent Rear as the Cobra. My search online says otherwise. Who's right??
The '03/'04 Machs do NOT have independant rears like the Cobras. I owned one........

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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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Yup . .Tom is right. No IRS for the Mach's.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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The Machs are still awesome cars though! Just don't have the independent. To be honest, I'm glad mine didn't. It really just depends on what you're wanting to do. The live axle was great in that car, IMO.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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thanks for clearing that up. I was pretty sure they didn't. but i wanted to make sure.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 06:20 AM
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Yeah I dont think the Mach's would have performed as well at the track as they do if Ford had gone IRS in them. Im glad they didn't because there is alot of potential still left in the SLA.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Once again, C&D FTL.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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Another C&D Mustang mistake:
In the August issue of the magazine, they do a review of the Subaru legacy 2.5, which is a pretty quick car. The one writer then writes this:

"People who dont know this engine see a powerless four door sedan. Woe to the 4.9 liter mustang driver who thought he'd overtake me!"

The 4.9 liter? I must've been asleep when Ford released that model. They might be referring to the 5.0, which wasnt quite 5 liters, but it's a 5.0 mustang, not a 4.9 mustang.

Half of these writers must have no real familiarity with cars, just a journalism degree and a spec sheet with all the info they need to write an article.
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Sadly if they were going by a spec sheet, they'd probably get it right.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 06:35 AM
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have an 03 mach....live 8.8
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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Sadly if they were going by a spec sheet, they'd probably get it right.
If they were going by a spec sheet then they did get it right, im pretty sure a '5.0' is 4948cc's, so technically it is a 4.9 liter. But i do agree that a lot of them dont know jack about cars, calling a five-o a 4.9 does nothing but confuse people.
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mudshuvel319
Another C&D Mustang mistake:
In the August issue of the magazine, they do a review of the Subaru legacy 2.5, which is a pretty quick car. The one writer then writes this:

"People who dont know this engine see a powerless four door sedan. Woe to the 4.9 liter mustang driver who thought he'd overtake me!"

The 4.9 liter? I must've been asleep when Ford released that model. They might be referring to the 5.0, which wasnt quite 5 liters, but it's a 5.0 mustang, not a 4.9 mustang.

Half of these writers must have no real familiarity with cars, just a journalism degree and a spec sheet with all the info they need to write an article.
Yea I quit reading C&D, their articles are too often wrong and uninteresting
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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The 03-04 Mach 1's had the 8.8 live axle with the 3:55.1 gear ratio
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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What is the major difference between the two different set ups on the track?
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tricky02GT
What is the major difference between the two different set ups on the track?
The live rear axle is cheaper, lighter (usually), and a lot less complicated, making is easier to replace or work on it.

The IRS is more expensive and more difficult to work on. However the design produces less unsprung weight. IRS also plants the wheels better in turns and curves, but this obviously isnt a concern on the drag track .
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 06:47 AM
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At the drag strip, wheel hop on the IRS Is a big problem. Wheel = broken half-shafts if not extremely careful
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by crayonbreaking
I watched an old ep of car and driver tv, and one of the editors claims it has the same Independent Rear as the Cobra. My search online says otherwise. Who's right??
All the MACH 1 is, is a 1999-04 SN-95 mustang GT, with a 1998 DOHC 4V COBRA engine N it, they changed the intake manifold to allow for a SHAKER, they took the same TREMEK T-3650 trany that they put N the late 99 & all 01 COBRAS & used it. I don't like getting my information out of car & driver B-CUZ they botch things all the time. N the latest issue they quoted the 07 SVT/SHELBY GT 500 as using the same engine as 03/04 COBRAS, and any body who is an inthuesiest knows differnt!!!! I always read Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords or 5.0 & Super FORDS for my info. Does any one have any cons for using the 03/04 COBRA'S gas tank on MACH'S or GT'S???? B-CUZ I am thinking of getting one for my car & getting twin FORD GT fuel pumps???? Any ideas or tech information would B greatly appreaciated!!!!!!!!
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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Drew-

Actually the Mach engines are quite different from the '98 Cobra engines (heads/cams/intake). They more closley relate to the 99-01 Cobra engines, but still have some differences. (Cams/Heads)

http://www.mach1registry.com/Specs/Specs.htm
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil_Capri
Drew-

Actually the Mach engines are quite different from the '98 Cobra engines (heads/cams/intake). They more closley relate to the 99-01 Cobra engines, but still have some differences. (Cams/Heads)

http://www.mach1registry.com/Specs/Specs.htm

The mach 1 engine is the same as the maruader, it uses the same cams as the 5.4 navigator
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