My Stang after installing H&R 1" Wheel Spacers
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Originally posted by acadian@May 21, 2005, 1:18 PM
I wouldn't try the spray can for wheels. They get chipped up very easily. And if you paint them yourself and don't clear it and bake it, any little rock is going to chip the paint. And then, the chip is just going to continue o get bigger and bigger. Eventually, it'll probably start to crack/flake anyway with the heat that the wheels get. I though about doing my bullitts black (except for the crome outer lip) but if I did, I'd have them powdercoated. That will hold up to anything.
I wouldn't try the spray can for wheels. They get chipped up very easily. And if you paint them yourself and don't clear it and bake it, any little rock is going to chip the paint. And then, the chip is just going to continue o get bigger and bigger. Eventually, it'll probably start to crack/flake anyway with the heat that the wheels get. I though about doing my bullitts black (except for the crome outer lip) but if I did, I'd have them powdercoated. That will hold up to anything.
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Originally posted by acadian@May 20, 2005, 2:17 PM
David, getting wider tires will help a little, but the largest you can really put on the stock wheels is 255 tires. That's only 3/4" of an inch wider than the stock 235's. So, the wheels will only stick out 3/8" more on each side. You will not even be able to see the difference. You'll be able to see the 3/4" if you look at the width of the tire, but not by looking at how far the wheels stick out. $200 to bring the wheels out an entire inch is not bad at all when you consider that buying 9" wide wheels to replace the 8" stock wheels would cost you 4 times that. I got the spacers and will also get 255's in the future to get the most out of the stock wheels.
Spacers also offer a couple other advantages besides looks, like 2" more between your wheels which helps with handling. ANd they also give you an extra inch of space between the wheels and the rotors/calipers which helps a lot in cleaning them... you can actually get a brush in there to scrub the calipers.
David, getting wider tires will help a little, but the largest you can really put on the stock wheels is 255 tires. That's only 3/4" of an inch wider than the stock 235's. So, the wheels will only stick out 3/8" more on each side. You will not even be able to see the difference. You'll be able to see the 3/4" if you look at the width of the tire, but not by looking at how far the wheels stick out. $200 to bring the wheels out an entire inch is not bad at all when you consider that buying 9" wide wheels to replace the 8" stock wheels would cost you 4 times that. I got the spacers and will also get 255's in the future to get the most out of the stock wheels.
Spacers also offer a couple other advantages besides looks, like 2" more between your wheels which helps with handling. ANd they also give you an extra inch of space between the wheels and the rotors/calipers which helps a lot in cleaning them... you can actually get a brush in there to scrub the calipers.
Spacers are dangerous, I've seen too many guys at the track snap the studs and have the wheels come off when racing. If you want your wheels to come out to the edge of the fender then buy wider rims. Yes it costs more but it's much safer. Take a look at the difference in the length of the studs in these pics:
Stock wheel studs
Wheel Spacer Studs
These pics are from this thread but they show you the differnce in length in the studs. The studs on the spacers are shorter and can't handle as much torque as the stock wheel studs. If your not going to race your car then you might be able to get away with it. If you are then I wouldn't even think of getting spacers. Just my 2 cents.
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I appreciate the concern, and that was one of my concerns when I got the spacers. The stock studs were only about a quarter of an inch shorter than the ones on the spacer. The stock lugs look like they are longer because the threads don't start until at least a quarter of an inch down the lug. The actual length of threaded bolt is very comparable to the ones on the spacers. And even if they aren't as long, the spacers were made with lug bolts that are long enough to be plenty safe. I researched this before buying the spacers... as far as how much thread is needed. It's got enough, trust me, or they wouldn't be on my car.
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Originally posted by Grubby@May 23, 2005, 9:48 PM
I like the look a lot.....where did you get them? cost? how long to install?
I like the look a lot.....where did you get them? cost? how long to install?
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I have had a set of spacers on the Bullitt for about 3 and a half years now with NO problems. It has been down the track only once but WE DO NOT baby that car! I love the look and (at least in my opinion) I think it is safe! One of my friends has them on his super charged Bullitt about 3 months longer than me with no problems and he is making 386RWHP
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I have had mine on for over 6 months now, and no problems at all. The wheel spacers studs (threaded portion) were only about a quarter of an inch shorter than the stock threaded portion of the lugs. It's definitely not a problem. The spacers would not be sold if they were unsafe.
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Originally posted by davids2toys@July 28, 2005, 6:44 AM
Who makes this wheel spacer in the picture, and how much and where can I get them?
Who makes this wheel spacer in the picture, and how much and where can I get them?
http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/00486...823114700004204
h&r springs
http://www.hrsprings.com/site/index.html
maximum motorsports
http://www.maximummotorsports.com/spacers.asp
see the maximum motorsports link. up to 1/2", it's just a spacer. over 1/2" then they have studs.
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Just to comment on how tire sizes affect handling.
BTW, I can add something about sidewalls in case anyone is interested.
You want different tire sizes based on what you are trying to accomplish. If you look at a 'funny-car' drag racer, they have giant tires in the back, and bicycle tires on the front. Since they don't really have to turn, lighter fronts are better. But, since you and I want to be able to make that U-turn, you need bigger tires on the front (well, wider than those bike tires).
It's all about ratios. The wider the fronts are compared to the rears, the easier it is to turn. But... you don't want it to get twitchy, because curbs are not your friend.
The wider your rears, the more likely you are to go in a straight line, and the more acceleration traction you have, but the harder it is to turn.
If you have lots of power, you need big rears to get it to the ground. Small tires will spin (more) easily. If they spin while you are taking a fast turn, your rear completely loses traction and your car spins around, too.
So, wider = more grip on that end (except in rain, when wider may/can = hydroplane, ie surfboard).
It's all about ratios. The wider the fronts are compared to the rears, the easier it is to turn. But... you don't want it to get twitchy, because curbs are not your friend.
The wider your rears, the more likely you are to go in a straight line, and the more acceleration traction you have, but the harder it is to turn.
If you have lots of power, you need big rears to get it to the ground. Small tires will spin (more) easily. If they spin while you are taking a fast turn, your rear completely loses traction and your car spins around, too.
So, wider = more grip on that end (except in rain, when wider may/can = hydroplane, ie surfboard).
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Originally posted by harrier@July 31, 2005, 12:36 AM
np, Dave. the wheel spacers really add a mean stance to Acadian's ride. hope it will to yours too.
np, Dave. the wheel spacers really add a mean stance to Acadian's ride. hope it will to yours too.
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Originally posted by harrier@July 29, 2005, 9:57 AM
Dave, the wheel spacer pic i posted up is, as far as i can remember, an eibach one. see link
http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/00486...823114700004204
h&r springs
http://www.hrsprings.com/site/index.html
maximum motorsports
http://www.maximummotorsports.com/spacers.asp
see the maximum motorsports link. up to 1/2", it's just a spacer. over 1/2" then they have studs.
Dave, the wheel spacer pic i posted up is, as far as i can remember, an eibach one. see link
http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/00486...823114700004204
h&r springs
http://www.hrsprings.com/site/index.html
maximum motorsports
http://www.maximummotorsports.com/spacers.asp
see the maximum motorsports link. up to 1/2", it's just a spacer. over 1/2" then they have studs.
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Originally posted by cambostang@August 1, 2005, 10:40 AM
Does the H&R have the concetric ring? what is the model # cause there are 2 on the H&R website for the 05 mustang.
Does the H&R have the concetric ring? what is the model # cause there are 2 on the H&R website for the 05 mustang.
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