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5/28/08, 01:33 PM
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So how exactly then Lakers managed to lose +14 last night?
Lakers won 2 out of 3 games against Spurs thanks for referees.
Dick Bavetta and Joey Crawford - Lakers should retire your jerseys since you played a bigger part in Lakers' win over the years than Kobe, Shaq and any other player.
Lakers won 2 out of 3 games against Spurs thanks for referees.
Dick Bavetta and Joey Crawford - Lakers should retire your jerseys since you played a bigger part in Lakers' win over the years than Kobe, Shaq and any other player.
Never. Why? Because good teams find a way to keep the lead.
Blame the refs if that's what make you happy. At the end of the day Spurs are still down 3-1.
5/28/08, 01:49 PM
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I'm not the only person who blames refs.
There gotta be a reason why so many people blame refs when Lakers play. Like I said before, I'm not Lakers or Spurs fan so I didn't start blaming refs for no reason.
There gotta be a reason why so many people blame refs when Lakers play. Like I said before, I'm not Lakers or Spurs fan so I didn't start blaming refs for no reason.
5/28/08, 02:23 PM
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Red Star, I seriously suggest you decide to go watch another sport. Otherwise your just gonna keep being angry. Like it or not, the Lakers have played better basketball than the Spurs for 3 out of the 4 games so far. Thats it. Plain and simple.
Did the refs make SA blow a 20 pt lead? No
Did the refs give LA a 30 pt lead? No
Did the refs make SA win by 14 in Game 3? No
Did the refs cause SA to lose last night? No
Give it up, even the Spurs wont sink as low as to make excuses for losing, they know they were out played for 48 min of basketball
Did the refs make SA blow a 20 pt lead? No
Did the refs give LA a 30 pt lead? No
Did the refs make SA win by 14 in Game 3? No
Did the refs cause SA to lose last night? No
Give it up, even the Spurs wont sink as low as to make excuses for losing, they know they were out played for 48 min of basketball
5/28/08, 02:37 PM
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I have always felt basketball was subjective. Winners say they deserve to win, losers blame refs and such. Perhaps the game is flawed. I said it before there is a foul on every play its just a matter of if its called. Just like in pro football there is a hold on every play, its either not seen or not called because frankly it would get ridiculous to have a flag or foul on every freakin' play. Its something you live with if you watch sports, but as you suggested to RedStar I'm gonna do something else. Maybe someday everyone will get tired of the corporate NBA marketing machine and do something else, like go outside and play basketball with their kids or friends.
5/28/08, 02:56 PM
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Just because somebody blows 20 pts lead doesn't mean they have to lose.
5/28/08, 03:04 PM
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Back in 2002 Kings have played better basketball than Lakers for 6 out of the 7 games. And yet they lost it, thanks for referees. You might think that I hate Lakers because they have defeated the Kings that year, but Kings lost playoff series against Timberwolves the following year and I never hated T-Wolves, because they won that series fair.
Just because somebody blows 20 pts lead doesn't mean they have to lose.
Just because somebody blows 20 pts lead doesn't mean they have to lose.
5/28/08, 03:16 PM
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Back in 2002 Kings have played better basketball than Lakers for 6 out of the 7 games. And yet they lost it, thanks for referees. You might think that I hate Lakers because they have defeated the Kings that year, but Kings lost playoff series against Timberwolves the following year and I never hated T-Wolves, because they won that series fair.
Just because somebody blows 20 pts lead doesn't mean they have to lose.
Just because somebody blows 20 pts lead doesn't mean they have to lose.
5/28/08, 07:47 PM
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I admit, I'm a Laker fan.
Have been since the Jerry West days.
I know exactly how Red Star feels.
I used to feel that way about the Celtics.
Used to...
Heck I still do.
It ain't rational, but it's true.
Hasn't stopped me from enjoying NBA games though.
If you really want to see some fouls, watch the action away from the ball.
Have been since the Jerry West days.
I know exactly how Red Star feels.
I used to feel that way about the Celtics.
Used to...
Heck I still do. It ain't rational, but it's true.
Hasn't stopped me from enjoying NBA games though.
If you really want to see some fouls, watch the action away from the ball.
5/28/08, 09:50 PM
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5/28/08, 11:58 PM
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All I can say to all you Laker fans is when it happens to you don't come crying to this forum. Because someday maybe others will agree that someone else "deserves" to win. I can't understand this country when people think they deserve this and deserve that. Deservings got nothing to do with it folks. You play by the rules and when that fails you go home. So in all likelyhood we're going home (Spurs) but deserving a win is just crap. Stick to a 'they beat them straight up' on the floor arguement or something like that if you can sleep at night. I deserve a billion bucks and my wife would agree with me but it ain't happening wihtout me kicking some *** at work and living my life right.
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5/29/08, 01:10 AM
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I admit, I'm a Laker fan.
Have been since the Jerry West days.
I know exactly how Red Star feels.
I used to feel that way about the Celtics.
Used to... Heck I still do.
It ain't rational, but it's true.
Hasn't stopped me from enjoying NBA games though.
If you really want to see some fouls, watch the action away from the ball.
Have been since the Jerry West days.
I know exactly how Red Star feels.
I used to feel that way about the Celtics.
Used to...
Heck I still do. It ain't rational, but it's true.
Hasn't stopped me from enjoying NBA games though.
If you really want to see some fouls, watch the action away from the ball.
But the Laker pedigree is still alive!
I dont know why youre quoting this because no one here was refuting the fact the it was a foul. Phil Jackson even admitted it right after the game. That still doesnt change the fact that those fouls dont get called at the end of a game, a policy that the NBA has had for years....
And did you already forget about the fact that fishers shot DID hit the rim, therefore it should have been Lakers ball with a full 24 and only 5 on the game clock?
All I can say to all you Laker fans is when it happens to you don't come crying to this forum. Because someday maybe others will agree that someone else "deserves" to win. I can't understand this country when people think they deserve this and deserve that. Deservings got nothing to do with it folks. You play by the rules and when that fails you go home. So in all likelyhood we're going home (Spurs) but deserving a win is just crap. Stick to a 'they beat them straight up' on the floor arguement or something like that if you can sleep at night. I deserve a billion bucks and my wife would agree with me but it ain't happening wihtout me kicking some *** at work and living my life right.
But this is getting pathetic fellas. Seriously. If the NBA really was trying to help the Lakers and was giving them calls all the time, then why has it been 4 years since we won a playoff series? Why didnt we get better value for the Shaq trade?
If the NBA hated the Spurs from "podunk" Texas so much, then why have they won 4 titles in the last 10 years?
There's no conspiracy, sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose. Plain and simple
5/29/08, 06:23 PM
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Dang, my hat is tipped to you sir. I could not have survived through all those battle with the Celtics. And Elgin retiring right before they won....thats rough.
But the Laker pedigree is still alive!
I dont know why youre quoting this because no one here was refuting the fact the it was a foul. Phil Jackson even admitted it right after the game. That still doesnt change the fact that those fouls dont get called at the end of a game, a policy that the NBA has had for years....
And did you already forget about the fact that fishers shot DID hit the rim, therefore it should have been Lakers ball with a full 24 and only 5 on the game clock?
2kgtcs, you need to go back and read the last page man. Red Star was the one who insinuated that the Spurs "deserved" to win. I merely argued it by saying that the Lakers deserved to win that game more so than the Spurs because they held the lead the entire game.
But this is getting pathetic fellas. Seriously. If the NBA really was trying to help the Lakers and was giving them calls all the time, then why has it been 4 years since we won a playoff series? Why didnt we get better value for the Shaq trade?
If the NBA hated the Spurs from "podunk" Texas so much, then why have they won 4 titles in the last 10 years?
There's no conspiracy, sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose. Plain and simple
But the Laker pedigree is still alive!
I dont know why youre quoting this because no one here was refuting the fact the it was a foul. Phil Jackson even admitted it right after the game. That still doesnt change the fact that those fouls dont get called at the end of a game, a policy that the NBA has had for years....
And did you already forget about the fact that fishers shot DID hit the rim, therefore it should have been Lakers ball with a full 24 and only 5 on the game clock?
2kgtcs, you need to go back and read the last page man. Red Star was the one who insinuated that the Spurs "deserved" to win. I merely argued it by saying that the Lakers deserved to win that game more so than the Spurs because they held the lead the entire game.
But this is getting pathetic fellas. Seriously. If the NBA really was trying to help the Lakers and was giving them calls all the time, then why has it been 4 years since we won a playoff series? Why didnt we get better value for the Shaq trade?
If the NBA hated the Spurs from "podunk" Texas so much, then why have they won 4 titles in the last 10 years?
There's no conspiracy, sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose. Plain and simple
A thumbs up for each Laker win. Including tonights.
5/29/08, 10:19 PM
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So who's to blame for tonights Spur loss?
Oh right the consipiracy.
It was a good series but the Lakers were the better team.
On to the Finals now. Hopefully the Celtics win tomorrow night so the consipracy theorists come out in full force.
Gotta love Vujacic's last second 3pt shot to bump the Lakers up to 100.
Oh right the consipiracy.
It was a good series but the Lakers were the better team.
On to the Finals now. Hopefully the Celtics win tomorrow night so the consipracy theorists come out in full force.
Gotta love Vujacic's last second 3pt shot to bump the Lakers up to 100.
5/29/08, 10:20 PM
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5/29/08, 10:50 PM
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It doesn't get any more boring than this.
Good thing is, European championship in soccer starts in about a week so I have a good excuse not to watch NBA finals.
Good thing is, European championship in soccer starts in about a week so I have a good excuse not to watch NBA finals.
5/29/08, 10:52 PM
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Go Lakers! 
We're getting a week's rest! Hopefully we play the Celtics. Either match up will be extremely hard but I believe it can be done!
Friend just spent $380 for a finals ticket. That's mod money 
but I'm still jealous 
We're getting a week's rest! Hopefully we play the Celtics. Either match up will be extremely hard but I believe it can be done! Friend just spent $380 for a finals ticket.
That's mod money but I'm still jealous
Low blow
5/29/08, 11:57 PM
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It's all good. I can honestly say though that between the Lakers and Pistons/Celtics I would rather see Lakers win, just because I dislike the other teams more.
It wasn't Spurs year, they can only win it all in odd number years. '99, '03, '05, '07,...'09?. Does anyone see a pattern here.
R. C. Buford and Pop will reload, hopefully with some younger legs and try again. I just hope Joey Crawford
retires.
5/30/08, 01:03 AM
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I take it youre a cowboys fan right? My team is the niners so i have nothing to look forward too lol....good luck with TO and going up against the spygate dynastyIt's all good. I can honestly say though that between the Lakers and Pistons/Celtics I would rather see Lakers win, just because I dislike the other teams more.
It wasn't Spurs year, they can only win it all in odd number years. '99, '03, '05, '07,...'09?. Does anyone see a pattern here.
R. C. Buford and Pop will reload, hopefully with some younger legs and try again. I just hope Joey Crawford
retires.