I think something more "Hot Rod Modern" would be a nice change from the retro stripes. Lower half, door handles down covered with a Deep Candy Cobalt Blue metallic, with the upper half covered In pearl white tinted with cobalt. Seperating the colors with some type of Heavy metal flake Tungstun / Silver pattern like a checkered flag, or tribal design intertwined, or maybe two stripes swirling next to each other, simlilar to a coke can. 2 inch drop, street scene ground effects kit and Ducktail, with the new center mount fog lights, with a matching center exit exhaust with custom 4 inch polished tips. Budnik Groove FL 20's with the grooves on the wheels painted with the same pearl white from the top of the car. Baer racing six piston calipers painted pearl white with Cobalt blue Hats on the rotors. Interior IUP painted to match exterior scheme, with custom leather on the seats. Oh, and we can't forget a supercharger under the hood.

 

Sorry- I got behind this morning and didn't get a chance to make the first post here- This is the idea. All of us here at Street Scene Equipment continue to enjoy working the the members of Brad Barnett/The Mustang Source and value your input and ideas. I have now met several members of this sight via car shows etc and have really enjoyed the experience. I also get many pms from you all. We have had several great discussions about products. Anyway, I have an idea that I wanted to run past all the members of this sight. I'm building a 06 Mustang Convertible for the SEMA show this year which will be displayed in Fords booth. (For the record, I'm also doing a Fusion for Fords booth) We are going to develop a Gen 2 body kit- complete new kit and grille combo. I thought it would be fun to get some input from the members of this sight on how to build this car. I'm not sure exactly how it would work, but my idea is to let you know that we are building this new Mustang and that I'm welcoming input on how to build it. What exhaust would you pick ? What accessories would you add? what wheels would you pick etc. Based on input and ability to work with the manufacturers you pick, I would add the items to the car. Its your chance to dream up the car you would build if you had the budget to build it. Its a Brad Barnett exclusive. This is for real- we will take your input and build the car for Fords booth. You have a chance to build a show car without spending the money. ( no you dont get to keep the car! ) We might even be able to do pictures of the products we are adding as well as our development work as we go along. I cant release the concept drawings of the car till early October but maybe we could do some teaser pictures along the way. I have the car now and I'm working on the body kit at this moment. We are well on our way with the new kit along with some new extra parts that I cant show you yet but other than Street Scene items what would you put on the car? If I like your suggestion and it goes with our theme, Ill put the products you suggest on the car and it will début at SEMA. This car is also sceduled to be in magazines , go on tour etc but you get to work on it first. What do you all think? I welcome your input- Regards- Mike P.S. if you have any ideas for the Fusion Im open to those ideas as well...

 

Mike, I think that this is an awesome idea. Definately cool to gives some ideas that might end up on a SEMA car.

BTW the last car for SEMA for Street Scene was great.

 

Fast 351- great ideas, thanks for the input- this is what we are talking about. In addtion, someone might want to recomend things they have already done to their car that they really like. Maybe a set of hood shocks or billet parts, exhaust etc. The sky is the limit. Sonic- thanks for the complements. Lets see if we can improve with this one!

 

Mike-

I’m not a designer by any stretch of the imagination, but maybe from a powerplant standpoint something along the lines of the 1997 Super Stallion Concept. With gas hitting higher and higher prices the versatility of the Super Stallion’s (SS) engine deserves another chance in the spotlight, as well as the fact that one can turn the supercharger on/off. I know the SS’s engine was a 4-valve so I’m not sure about the viability of that setup sitting on top of a 3-valve.

http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/concept/superstallion/

If that isn’t an option how about something along the line of the 2004 Lightning Concept with the SuperCooler system? That might be a big hit in a Mustang type application.

http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/wall...htning/concept

 

mustang mike 05 first of love street scene equitment`s stuff....if you are doing a convertible what about making a really cool speedster tonneau cover kind of like saleen did for the last gen. mustangs...i have yet to see any offered for the 05+ mustang also incorperating a light bar

 

Thanks Murphy- great idea- we have looked at this and might consider doing it. Ive heard that some other manufactuers are also working on this item. The problem with it is that to make it look right, it has to be flat in the back. The OE softop sits about 7 inches above the back seat so it cant be flat. The only way to really make it work is to un-bolt the soft top from the car and then build a flat Tonneau. This would work for a show car but I dont think anyone is going to want to buy it. I do like the light bar idea also...

 

Any hood ideas? Would be nice to see something closer to the concept design that is functional. Also, instead of something that just sticks onto the rear bumper with 3M tape, how about an entire near rear fascia.

 

I personally like the looks of BBR's, Cervini's, etc. in the way they are trying to make a "modern-retro" car. But they are lacking in that their kits do not look classy (i.e. non-ricy). I like the certain parts of the Foose car done on Overhaulin'. It is very simple, clean, yet catches your eye. Less is more.

Ditch the 3M tape for the bumpers. For the scoops...maybe....but not for bumpers/fascias.

Personally, as this is the theme I am striving for; I would love to see Street Scene come up with a "blacked out" theme. Nothing ricy...more retro. Clean, dark, and mystique. More agressive and muscle car than Fast and the Furious.

Center fogs....down low possibly? No more honey comb grill. A black, billit, or maybe chrome bar grill.

I know you guys are working on a gen2 ducktail...so I wont say too much...except...try and make it look like it belongs on the car more. My biggest complaints about the currently offered ducktails...is that they are either too big (or too small) and look "tacked on". Ideally, a fiberglassed ducktail would look the best. So try and come up with a spoiler that comes as close to that as possible.

Finally....SIDE EXHAUST. Cervini's is nice, but they use Maganaflow mufflers. I have heard, and love straight pipes on these cars. So If a side exhaust system is devloped...make the mufflers "bolted on" if possible...so the consumer can run straight pipes. Also, I am not a fan of the side skirts Cervini did. So, I know If Cervini can do it, you guys can do it better.

Better pedals? I know this is simple, but I haven't seen any good pedals for the 05. Also a good shift ball and e-brake combo.

I add more when I have time. hope this is some help.

 

i too would love to see another side exhaust done hopefully with one nice tip instead of the two ovals that cervini`s did...as for wheels i think the BBS RX II wheels would look great on the new stang...and a kenne bell supercharger under the hood wouldnt hurt things either

 

The problem I see is and this is only my oppinion, that the verts and the coupes look so different without the rooflines that making something to look good on a vert might not look good on a coupe, so are you looking to win best in show at SEMA or build something that will sell??? for example....3DCarbon won best in show, but I dont see anyone with their stuff on their cars, I think you beat them buy a mile and a half in that regards Mike. By far a way better looking car that you built, but that might not be what it takes to win a show like SEMA (the classy suttle look). Also are you looking to make these parts as versitle as possible for both coupe and vert or are we shooting to make the baddest looking vert around???? I personally think that the vert looks better without any spoiler or tail on the back, because this car wasnt built with hips in the C-pillar and the verts look more like a 64 1/2 body then the coupes do, the coupes looking more like a 65-67 fast back and looks awesome with a ducktail. But a vert I think would look sick in either red with white leather interior and top or blue with the same, dark blue, red with no stripes except maybe a rocker panel one and the blue either with just the rocker panel or with the whole shebang!!! The wheels....are you going to try to use something that exists or go oneoffs....if going one offs then a better new deepdish look of the Halibrand style wheels would be tight, in 18s (NOOOOO 20s). But something that exists, Bullitts...lets face it no one has come out with anything that looks any better, or perhaps some old school rally style wheels with a very simple understated look. On a vert the front end should be very clean and understated as should the whole car...I can go on forever but have to go to work soon....when I get home I will make you a laundry list of what I would like to see, but hopefully you would have answered some of those questions I asked at the begining of this.


MIKE are you coming down to the Rods and Woodies tomorrow??? I will save you two spots right up front.

 

All great input so far! You guys are on it and I can tell you we have looked at or discussed several of these things. Its great to see you all think the same way. You have also given us some new ideas to think about . let me try to answer some of the comments made- side exhaust- we have studied this a lot as it was in our original design. We had to scrap the idea cause the loss of horse power is pretty significant. There is not a good way to run the exhaust out the side without cutting into the lower structure or running the pipes in such a way as to loose lots of power. You could run fake pipes but why? Id like to see how others have done it cause I think they will have one of these problems that I have outlined. We are looking at several types of engine mods but we want to keep the car smog legal and will probably use something someone has already designed. We will more likely go with something bolt-on than a new design from Street Scene. We are a styling company so I don't think we will be trying to design much from a power enhancement side. We will bolt on something from a manufacturer who specializes in this area. Robello- you made the comment about show cars vs..... what sells- we ask ourselves this everyday. I have built cars and trucks before that have had considerable show success but we couldn't build or sell the parts cause they were "too far out there" I have learned that its better to have something that consumers can add to their vehicles and enjoy rather than something that wins awards but doesn't sell. The true mark is something that sells well, installs well and makes people happy. The awards are secondary to all of that. ( for the record, we have also won the best of show design award from Ford) We are looking at hood ideas- have a favorite? One of the other thing we have to look at is how much will the consumer pay? A full rear bumper is the best way to go but costs more. Should a body kit run $1000, $2000, $3000 ? As the price goes up the volume goes down. Where is the "happy point" ? All tough decisions. Keep the comments coming - This is a great subject and discussion.
good, improve the 05 Stang in a great way...

 

Any thoughts of a 1971 Boss 351/Mach 1 Type Hood?

 

How about changing the "I" beams between the grill and headlight. Maybe slanting it like the GT500 giving it a little more aggressive look. Recessed blacked out grill with protruding pony? Maybe a standard new front clip with different grill options, finishes?

Some people have mentioned hood instability at high speeds. How about something that looks good and is functional. Mabye with extractor vents and built in hood pins?

I also agree that the look should be subtle while remaining very aggressive.

 

Id pay whatever it takes to get this.....


maybe you could try to do a new front end with a chin spoiler that is part of the bumper so it flows nicely and doesnt look like its tacked on.....also to have the opening large enough to fit some goodsize fogs (like the stock) in there for those that wish too but not too big it looks like a wide mouth bass like 3DCarbons

the hood, liking the RKSport, but its not perfect, the scoops need to be a little wider so the gap in between doesnt look so plastic like, and they need to be further up on the hood, also you should probably add some vented louvers at the back of the hood like on the old Shelbys (I would go with them running parrallel to the windshield and not perpindicular like on the Shelbys, it would look cleaner this way and less busy), as well as a little bit of a raise (as the RKSport) this would not only look cool, but it would help reduce heat in the engine compartment and might also help to reduce the hood shake at higher speeds. It would be real trick if you could somehow place the windshield squirters recessed into say the inner most vent so that it is not an eyesore on the hood. And the scoops should definately be functional.
SCOOPS LIKE THIS.....


a duck tail a lot like the one that was on the concept for the GT500 the size is perfect I think but it needs to have some curve to it both on the back and top like a ramp so it looks like a tail from an old shelby and would look integrated into the trunk more, plus three piece I think would look better so its actually on the car and for those of us who would like to do so we could mold it in.

the side exhaust thing I am dying to see how it would work too, I have had several shops try to figure this out and even when running no mufflers it would be very difficult to do and cost a lot, but how about doing a fuel cell so you can eliminate the gas tank and then it would be easy.

the fogs would be sweet centered, I personally perfer them lower on the car, but either way the flat bar grill with the running pony on it is way sick, like in my first pic, both on top and bottom

some clear turn signals

deep recessed buckets for the headlights like on the CDC car but the large size headlamps like stock, dont make them smaller, and nice clear round headlamps, perhaps HID if can be done, I have been looking into a cheap way to do this and might have found one, this will give it a real old school look

Side skirts that flow real nice, an example of ones I love are the ones of 3DCarbon, the only thing on their car I do like, but they ruined it by having wide body fenders and the kit is all or nothing now.

chrome taillight bezel


maybe these wheels....

or like I stated before a deepdish version of the halibrands but cleaner looking not so thick spokes

A new fake gas cap emblem on the trunk something that looks like this...

heres one with the cobra...


as far as parts go if you would like I can put you in contact with my connection at JBA Mike, I am sure they would be eager to have some of their parts on another SEMA car. Heck they've done mine for free and its not going to SEMA, I wouldnt mind it being parked their though. Wanna redesign mine.....JK....sort of.

New better looking gas pedals would be sick, ones with no logos, sorry I know youd like your company name on them maybe the bottom, I hate the ones that say Roush, Saleen, or Steeda on the top, I want a clean look, perhaps something in a charcoal or anodized look might be nice looking instead of a polished or chrome look.

an ebrake like this...


some two tone seats, but just the center pieces dyed not the whole seat being bright red or anything like that, and maybe some cool Mustang embroidery on the head rest....

reverse the guages so the tach is on the right

some billet dress up under the hood and interior

doorsill inserts to match color scheme of car

hoodlifts

sequential turn signals

I am sure I am missing something but this is a good start

 

oh and Mike you never answered my question...you coming to Rods and Woodies tonight? I can save you spots if you are.

 

Wow, I like a lot of those ideas rrobello Nice pic of your car as well

Mike, how about some classic style taillights, ala 67s or the longer shelby style? (might need to do a whole trunk lid for the latter)

 

I've actually put a lot of thought into that and did a chop as well, it isnt as hard as one would think but too much to do as a product to sell to everyone it would have to be custom done. Maybe Ford can do this with the next update or an SE or Cobra or something so no one has to do the custom thing, but I will post more details later, I have to go to a car show.

 

Well I certainly have no objection to a BLACK OUT theme.... :-) Its been working pretty good for my ride!

If not black, something in a deep metallic blue. Possibly with white stripes but Not the standard Shelby type - which rock no doubt, but its time for something a bit different.

I also echo the Hot Rod modern idea - guys like Fang performance has the right idea but it can be done better and carried a little further.

SO:

Wheels - everyone for the show cars has done modern wheels on the car - I'll agree with an earlier statement to maybe try and design something very similar to the torque thrust but a little tastier - OR what I have been thinking over the past week or so - I thought the BUllitts looked best and still do - but the Mach 1/Magnum 500 type rims.... MAN o MAN do those look hot on this body style - more than I thought. If you can come up with a version of that that is 80% the classic style and 20% new, I think that would totally rock people's worlds.
(I would stick with nothing more than 19s but that's just my opinion)

Hood - I have not really seen ONE hood scoop I totally love on this car. That's why I always loved that you guys did NOTHING with that on the Gen 1 kit. Something like the concept hood or the classic Mach hoods - or the 68 GT500 - vents: either intakes or heat extractors seem to be the way to go.

Rear - NO wing - either a clean back tail (daring, I know, especially with a vert) or something subtle like a new version of the ducktail.

I would like to see something tasteful done with sidescoops just behind the doors on these cars. When done right, these can look awesome on a Stang. Also perhaps in the front fenders, vents to allow air to get to the brakes??... Always like that idea when it is done right...

That's all I have right now - more later!

To me, subtley seems to work best - nothing over the top - just simple and direct will win the day and make an awesome car. Once you have the concept, I know you guys have the tools and talent to pull it off.

 

OOOOMMMMGGGGGGG What rims are those, and what size are they, they look perfect!!!!. What tires are they on? Please i need info on those rims for gods sake they are perfect. The rims in rrobello comment.