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Old 4/5/04, 01:47 PM
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Lightweight RPS body panels with carbon fiber hood, aero devices, instrument panel, interior door panels and floor heal pads

Engine – Ford Racing 5.0L "Cammer" V8

Configuration – V-8, aluminum block, aluminum four-valve cylinder heads, forged aluminum pistons

Bore x Stroke – 94 mm bore x 90.0 mm stroke

Displacement – 5.0 liters (302 cu in/4995 cc)

Compression ratio – 11.0:1

Horsepower – 440 @ 7000 rpm

Torque – 400 lb-ft @ 5500 rpm

Redline – 7,000 rpm

Valvetrain – Double overhead camshafts, four valves per cylinder

Intake valves – Two per cylinder, 38 mm

Exhaust valves – Two per cylinder, 32 mm

Throttle body – Twin 57 mm

Drivetrain

Transmission – Ford Racing/Tremec T-56 6-speed

Rear axle – Winters/Ford 9-inch design

Gear ratios –

1st – 2.97
2nd – 2.07
3rd – 1.43
4th – 1.00
5th – .80
6th – .62
Final drive – 4.56:1

Differential – Winter's race-spec rear differential

Clutch – Ford Racing "Cobra R" heavy-duty clutch/flywheel assembly

Driveshaft – Metal matrix composite aluminum custom driveshaft

Exhaust – Complete stainless steel race exhaust with Tri-Y design headers, crossover and side exit tips

Chassis and Suspension

Chassis – Fully reinforced fabrication

Suspension – Original production geometry with lightweight chrome-moly tube (aircraft quality) construction

Front – Reverse-L independent rigid strut tower brace with lightweight chrome-moly K-member and race-spec anti-sway bar with 1.25-inch box section

Rear – Three-link, solid axle with dynamic, fully adjustable shocks with remote reservoirs and coil-over springs, race-spec 1.25-inch panhard rod, and race-spec anti-sway bar

Brakes

Front – Brembo Racing 6-piston calipers and 14.3-inch rotors, 1.25-inch thickness

Rear – Brembo Racing 4-piston calipers and 13-inch rotors, 1.25-inch thickness

Wheels & Tires

Front –
Pirelli P275/35/20 racing slicks
20 x 10-inch, 5-spoke billet aluminum wheels

Rear –
Pirelli P315/30/20 racing slicks
20 x 11-inch, 5-spoke billet aluminum wheels
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GREAT info! Where did you get that? I know the price will be in the $40K range (see FoMoCo Press page, near the bottom of the release):

http://media.ford.com/newsroom/feature_dis...m?release=17442
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It was a press release from Ford.
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Originally posted by crispy23c@Apr. 5th, 2004, 3:13 PM
GREAT info! Where did you get that? I know the price will be in the $40K range (see FoMoCo Press page, near the bottom of the release)
I would not expect to see the car for sale at any price. You can (or will be able to) buy many of the parts through FRPP, but not the entire car.
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I can't say I agree entirely. I was thinking a short-run Trans-am car, primarily for Ford sponsored teams, ya know, for promo purposes. But they could be doing a one-off to promote the new Mustang and their aftermarket parts. I guess we'll have to wait and see...
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I'd like to see a video of it whipping a GTO.
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Just a GTO?
I can see this car whomping a lot more than that!
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lol..."Whomping", that's a funny word . Yeah I'm pretty sure it could take some other cars: upcoming C6, CTS-V, Mercedes CL,SL 55 AMG, M3,5 and so forth and so on
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I think what they mean is that this is "a hint of what's to come" from Ford. And, with their mention of a 40 thousand car, I feel this is our next Cobra, just all dressed up for racing.
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I Hope its not the next Cobra, Cobra guys are loving the ease of modifying the current Cobra. I think most would prefer it to come S/C from the factory. It would be nice in a Boss 302 version, but as i understand, is the Cammer, not emissions legal in the current configuration?
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That's pretty slick setup for racing.
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Just a GTO?
I can see this car whomping a lot more than that!
Yeah i wanna see it become mincemeat
Then after its easy victory it can smoke up a C6 to warmup.
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Originally posted by Twilightblu92@Apr. 5th, 2004, 4:57 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure it could take some other cars:...M3
Lets be fair and put it up against an equivalent M3:

http://www.bmwusa.com/Joy/Motorsport/m3/

I think it would be a good race.
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That's a sweet M3. I'd love Ford to get back into that type of racing with the Mustang. Sweet, very sweet.
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Going down the list, I'm wondering about the $40k-$45k price . If the GT is most likely gonna go for about $25,000.00...

Ok say you strip $15,000 of parts out of the GT, can the rest of that part list be had at $30,000-$35,000? Does that sound about right?
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Here's a better question. Has the 5.0L Cammer been certified for emissions in a vehicle yet?
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Originally posted by ((ShocK))@Apr. 6th, 2004, 11:27 AM
Going down the list, I'm wondering about the $40k-$45k price . If the GT is most likely gonna go for about $25,000.00...

Ok say you strip $15,000 of parts out of the GT, can the rest of that part list be had at $30,000-$35,000? Does that sound about right?
My personal feeling is that that part of the press release is being misinterpreted. I think the press release was refering to the price range of _factory produced_ Mustangs for the 2005MY going forward. I'll bet that the actual cosumer cost to put together a car like the GTR would be anywhere from $75k to $100k.
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Originally posted by PaperTarget@Apr. 6th, 2004, 11:42 AM
Here's a better question. Has the 5.0L Cammer been certified for emissions in a vehicle yet?
No, and Ford reportedly has no intention to do so.

I think we should forget the 5.0 Cammer. I'd look for something like the 6.4L V10. (which does have a chance of making production) with two cylinders chopped off. That gives you a 5.1L V8. Now, destroke for 5.0L. Still undersquare, and much more likley for production, IMHO. Give it five or six years and we will probably see it.
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I think a Boss will show up before then and I'm pretty sure it will be 5.0 to 5.4 liters in size.
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Originally posted by PaperTarget@Apr. 6th, 2004, 1:32 PM
I think a Boss will show up before then and I'm pretty sure it will be 5.0 to 5.4 liters in size.
I think there's a decent chance of that, given that Team Shinoda has tentative "plans" for it. But that's an aftermarket car and probably won't use the Cammer according to what the owner posted on this board.

I don't expect that there will be a factory Boss Mustang. We'll get a Shelby GT (perhaps called GT350) instead. It may well have a 5.4L, but a 5.0L is not likely IMHO.


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