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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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Well, this ought to knock the wind out of SVT's GT500 pricing hubris and greed.

Dodge Challenger Spy Pics

My guess is that Dodge will easily price an SRT-8 version of this in the low $30's, making a $40K+ GT500 ludicrous, especially if they port over the 300/Magnums suspension, making the GT500's econostrut/ox-cart axle suspension seem ludicrous.

Obviously, these are only spy pics of an upcoming concept, but given DC Corp’s record of bringing “concept” cars to quick reality and presuming it would be based on already developed underpinnings and drive trains, this seems like a no-brainer.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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Interestingly, this car is supposed to have over 450 hp, too (in SRT trim). I would suspect this would come in at mid-30 range. Competition never hurts the consumer.

PS, this will be at Detroit in '06 for its 1st show appearance. Don't sell D/C short, they produce new models quickly. It rides on an abbreviated 300 chassis, from what I heard.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by rhumb@November 21, 2005, 8:59 AM
Obviously, these are only spy pics of an upcoming concept, but given DC Corp’s record of bringing “concept” cars to quick reality and presuming it would be based on already developed underpinnings and drive trains, this seems like a no-brainer.
The underpinnings are NOT developed. The present 300C platform cannot be shortened. If the Challenger is made, it would be made off the next generation 300C platform which is being designed to be shortened or lengthend. The new 300C is not due out until 2009, so don't hold your breath.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by rhumb@November 21, 2005, 7:59 AM
...making the GT500's econostrut/ox-cart axle suspension seem ludicrous.
:ranting:

You're obsessed, dude.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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Rhumb. Your out of your GD Mind, if you think the SRT version will come in at the low $30's. Just wanted to make that point.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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I think it will base in the upper 30's. I think the Charger is $39k, so my guess would be $35-$37K, since it's a smaller car...
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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Mid $30's would probably be more likely for the SRT8, with the R/T in around the upper $20s, a mid-line version around $25K and perhaps a budget leader, secreatry's special at $20K.

Yeah, guess I am obsessed about having a modern suspension in a modern car, some sort of weird character trait there or something.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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You all crack me up. Until firm pricing is announced for the GT500 and the car debuts at NAIAS (I'll be there on press day) you all are:



However, it's entertaining reading.

Crispy23: I'm #1 at my local dealer for the GT500 convertible at MSRP.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by Shelby Roadster@November 22, 2005, 11:45 AM
You all crack me up. Until firm pricing is announced for the GT500 and the car debuts at NAIAS (I'll be there on press day) you all are:



However, it's entertaining reading.

Crispy23: I'm #1 at my local dealer for the GT500 convertible at MSRP.
Cool! Me too.
I'm not stepping away from that list unless the dealer trys to pull a fast one (or if I confirm rampant rumors of ludicrous pricing)...
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by rhumb@November 21, 2005, 6:52 AM
Well, this ought to knock the wind out of SVT's GT500 pricing greed and hubris. Dodge Challenger Spy Pics

Be nice if you posted the spy pics.. Under the current market conditions, and the fact that 800+ days has been added to the GT500 availabilty at the top of the forums web page as opposed to 60, the GT500 will be cancelled.. 899 days is almost 2 1/2 years from now.. This discussion is basically worthless.. By the time the car hits the Market, we will be lucky if Ford is still even making Mustangs period..

GM is about to lay off 30,000 employees, and close down 9 manufacturing plants across the US..

If you have a car in your driveway that is not made and produced in America, you dont deserve a GT500.... For the record, I own a Ford and a Chevy.. I have done my part to contribute to both of these great car makers..

If the GT500 ever sees the light of day, it might be worth $50K.. Because Ford would never produce an amount that may not get sold.. They will actually be critisized even making a car with a 5.4L engine, with no new technology in it to conserve on gas.. GT500's are a long shot at best.. alot can happen in 2 1/2 years..

It could be that the 899 is a big mistake, if so I'll PM Brad and find out whats going on.. LOL!! Yeah right!
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by rhumb@November 22, 2005, 9:39 AM
Yeah, guess I am obsessed about having a modern suspension in a modern car, some sort of weird character trait there or something.
Pity it's a character trait not shared by Ford Motor Co.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by MSP@November 22, 2005, 6:28 PM
Be nice if you posted the spy pics.. Under the current market conditions, and the fact that 800+ days has been added to the GT500 availabilty at the top of the forums web page as opposed to 60, the GT500 will be cancelled.. 899 days is almost 2 1/2 years from now.. This discussion is basically worthless.. By the time the car hits the Market, we will be lucky if Ford is still even making Mustangs period..

GM is about to lay off 30,000 employees, and close down 9 manufacturing plants across the US..

If you have a car in your driveway that is not made and produced in America, you dont deserve a GT500.... For the record, I own a Ford and a Chevy.. I have done my part to contribute to both of these great car makers..

If the GT500 ever sees the light of day, it might be worth $50K.. Because Ford would never produce an amount that may not get sold.. They will actually be critisized even making a car with a 5.4L engine, with no new technology in it to conserve on gas.. GT500's are a long shot at best.. alot can happen in 2 1/2 years..

It could be that the 899 is a big mistake, if so I'll PM Brad and find out whats going on.. LOL!! Yeah right!
Ummmm, what are you talking about? :scratch:
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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He must use that fancy smancy new skin for the forums that's harder to read

It has a countdown to the unveiling of the 07 GT-500. It's at 47 right now...I'll bet the 899 was a joke to qwell the rumor mongering going on in here.

Or to stir it up.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by SixtySix@November 22, 2005, 9:07 PM
He must use that fancy smancy new skin for the forums that's harder to read

It has a countdown to the unveiling of the 07 GT-500. It's at 47 right now...I'll bet the 899 was a joke to qwell the rumor mongering going on in here.

Or to stir it up.
Well, off hand I'd say it definitely stirred him up.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by BC_Shelby@November 23, 2005, 2:14 AM
Well, off hand I'd say it definitely stirred him up.
Well, I did imply in the last line, that if the 899 was incorrect, then I would like to find out whats going on...

How am I supposed to know its a joke.. In the last line of the paragraph, hinted that it did seem alittle strange.. However, the fact that you chose to ignore the last line of my post is more curious..

Lets just take from his post what we want, and form a reply based on parts of the post I dont like.. Gimme a break! :notnice:
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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Oh pahlease
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by SixtySix@November 23, 2005, 9:59 AM
Oh pahlease

LOL!! So thats how you spell it... Pahlease!! Nice one..
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by MSP@November 22, 2005, 7:28 PM
If you have a car in your driveway that is not made and produced in America, you dont deserve a GT500.... For the record, I own a Ford and a Chevy.. I have done my part to contribute to both of these great car makers..
That is the most narrow-minded post I have seen in a while. Since when does someone have to "deserve" to buy a car? Besides, show me an American car that is 100% made in America.
No Mexico or Candian plants.
Pure American.

In fact, many Camry's are more "American made" than some Fords or Chevy's. And even the most they are is something like 40% "American."

Welcome to the modern world of globalization and the service-based American economy.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by Rampant@November 23, 2005, 12:59 PM
Welcome to the modern world of globalization and the service-based American economy.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by BC_Shelby@November 15, 2005, 1:14 AM
Dear Ford:

Well, there you have it. The people have spoken. Seems reality is rearing its ugly head in this thread, wouldn't you say?

Most enthusiasts - and I count most of the people in this thread among them - are having a reality check right now. They're looking at the content vs. cost equation and finally grasping that it isn't even a zero sum game. The consumer is losing out. Why? Because...
- The Shelby MSRP is moving out of the reach of many people...

- The ADM will put it out of reach for all but a small handful of the rest...

- The Shelby is technologically unremarkable (no IRS, iron block, portly weight, lack of amenities, lack of stability control, lack of HIDs, etc, etc, etc, etc)...

- It appears the car is being de-contented all the time relative to what you showed us in NY...

- The cost to fuel this sucker (premium only, folks!) will be astronomical...

- The insurance on the Shelby will be prohibitive for many...

- The odds of it being a collectible anytime soon (if ever) are virtually nil...

...and last but not least, we're freakin' over those those horrendous things you call "hood scoops." God, what's the deal with those things anyway?
What does all of this mean? It means that in order to be willing to drop $55K plus for this car, a buyer has to, 1) have a ton of disposable income he/she is willing to **** away and no common sense, and 2) be a rabid Mustang fanatic.

Think there's 7500 - 10000 of them out there each year?

Think again.

I was going to stay quite on this issue but I just have to chime int here!!!

All of the public that bought into the GT500 being some sort of special exceptional car just because it was a "Shelby" were sadly mistaken!! When you look at all aspects of this car's content that was orginally promised it is no wonder that the price appears to be slipping north od $40K - Ford had to have been delusional if they thought that they could deliver the prototyoe for that price. Compound that with the fact that they are going to build "as many as people want" (read as 5000 to 7000) and there will be no intrinsic additional collector value to these cars other than the name plate which by the way will probably cost you another $5000 to $15000 ADMU. The styling of the the GT500 is mediocre at best, Ford has already compromised on the power plant by using the iron block 5.4 and fitting it with an Eaton blower instead of the twin crew as promised. There also has been verly little added to the car to make it handle even as well as the current GT giving the extra noce weight of that big 5.4. I really hope these cars are better in reality than they currently a[[ear on paper or int the magazine write ups but I am preparing myself for the worst!!
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