Well, I finally got Stella turbo charged *** to the track tonight. I went to Old Dominion Drag way, which is the lowest quality track in my area. But it was the closest track and I was desperate for some track time. This is a 1/8 track so please keep that in mind.

First impressions: Spin City!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I need to learn how to launch all over again! Launching NA took a day to master, then launching with juice took 3 track visits to master, now I have to do it all over again with this turbo.

Here are the results, minus one time slip because of a printer malfunction. Royally pissed me off!!!!! Well, here you go:

1ST Run

• RT: .634
• 60: 2.29
• 1/8: 8.81
• MPH: 83.5

On the first run, I took it easy and launched at 1K RPM.

2ND Run

• RT: 1.178
• 60: 2.28
• 1/8: 8.76
• MPH: 83.9

Launched at around 1.2K RPM on this one.

3RD Run

• RT: .373
• 60: 2.37
• 1/8: 8.83
• MPH: 83.7

On this one, I launched at 1.5K RPM.

4TH Run

• RT: 1.043
• 60: 2.39
• 1/8: 8.84
• MPH: 84.0

I was hoping for better my first time out, but I remember how terrible my times were my first time out on the juice. I’m just going to have to work at it. Now, according to some people standing along the fence, there was a 8.5 that I ripped off, but that was when the printer malfunctioned so it doesn’t count because I have no slip.

I am still very happy with the turbo. Even with my terrible launches, I am still ripping off what looks like mid 13 second runs. I also didn’t heat up my Nittos which I should have done. And I was lazy tonight, I had a full bottle of nitrous in the trunk, the spare tire and my work laptop bag, so that is like 75lbs worth of crap I could have taken out.

But now I have a base line, I will probably hit the 1/4 track the weekend of June 3. So there you have it, first time out. Of course I will scan my slips tomorrow and post them.

EDIT: Here are some slips:

 

sheesh... this board is in a near coma these days.... all the recent downtime made everyone split.

These are great times! What amazes me is the high MPH you're getting on the 1/8th. Once you grab, you just turn into a rocket! The quarter mile is gonna be so impressive! I can't wait to see what you run!

 

Yea, the mph is looking snappy, I just need to hook.

As for TMS, it will pick up again, I'm sure of it.

 

rygen, i can't wait to see how your times improve as you get comfortable with the turbo.

 

comfortable with the turbo and tires lol

 

Thanks man, I got a lot of work to do.

 

Yea well, spinning my tires on 1st, then again on 2nd with an auto is a new experience for me. And just think, the modified Cobra's put out so much more!!! ****!!!

 

 

The conversion for 1/8th mile to 1/4 mile is (1/8th ET x 1.5832)

Based on that Rygen, your best run was a 13.86 ET! Very interesting..

Good Job man! Looks like you have made a good point about the first time out.. LOL! I may be lucky to even run a 13.5ET..

Overall though, how did the car feel to you as compared to the Nitrous? Did the Nitrous feel more direct in terms of power? Being that the Nitrous has a huge bang of TQ once sprayed, and the turbo's power comes on with alittle less overall force.. What your opinion?

 

Have no fear, Todd will be dipping into the 12's before the summer is over. I just hope his magic will rub off on me.

 

I have no doubt your correct.. This is what Rygen is dealing with.. (.65)... Rygen needs to shave off .65 seconds from his 1/8th mile time to make it to 12.8's.. Its actually less than 1sec..

This .65 of 1 second is what seperates him from a 12.8 ET.. Its easy to see how incredibly sensitive everything actually is.. This could partly be made up during the launch.. The rest through a different transmission shift point..

As far as I am concerend, based on the facts he should be able to remove .65 through a slightly more aggressive launch, and by extending his 1st and 2nd gear shift points..

Looks like he needs to spin 1st gear up just a tad higher, and hold onto 2nd gear just a bit longer.. This will give 3rd gear a better slope from which to escalate from.. He is running 3.73's, so extending the shift points will do it..

 

Rygen on the above that conversion is B.S doesn't work with a turbo remember what I said about you turbo .

13.86 LMAO that is incorrect not even close.

Mike on his 12.57 ran a 8.322 in the 1/8 if we use the conversion 1/8 x 1.5832 it comes out to 13.17 instead of a 12.57 that Mike ran.

You ran about a low 13. IMO (13.30 -13.40), using the margin of error of the conversion and rounding it off on your 1/8 time conversion also says poss low 13 backs up my other reply per low 13.

 

The difference you speak of can be found in the last section of the race.. Your comparing a 5spd to an automatic.. Which means Mike's car had more RWHP in the last section of the race.. It is also clear that the increased RWHP helped out the Powerhouse V6 in the first section as well..

In the first section of the race based on the 8.322 we see a difference in RWHP of .438 worth of time.. Rougly 40RWHP..

Actually the last section of the race is harder to accurately predict, because there are alot of variables which can not be duplicated.. However it is a rough estimate..

Looking at the time for the last section of the run we see the Powerhouse V6 completed the section in 4.25sec..

Rygens estimated time for completing the last section is 5.1sec.. If you subtract these times, you come up with .85.. Its almost exactly the difference between 8.76(Rygen) and 8.322(Powerhouse) .438.. Its actually .876.. Which means the Powerhouse car had 40+ more RWHP.. This difference in power showed up in the first and last section of the race..

@Rygen

Just looking at a few numbers.. Not inferring anything from them.. There is no substitute for running the car at the track.. Which your pretty good at.. I'm just trying to understand the numbers is all.. I think you would have run closer to a 13.2 or 3 actually.. Bottom line is you had fun, and provided the info for us all to chew on.. You rock!

 

Hey Rygen, I went alittle deeper into the numbers, without using the conversion, and I come up witha 13.14ET! Heres how I did it..

You can roughly predict the last section, based on the first section.. The last 1/8th mile should be completed in half the time of the first section..

The Powerhouse car ran an 8.322 1/8th, and the 1/4 in 12.57.. The difference is 4.248.. Now if you divide 8.322 by 2 you have 4.161.. This leaves us with a margin of error of roughly .0087 Margin of error..

So if we look at your time, you ran a 8.76 1/8th mile time.. If we divide this by 2 we have 4.38.. Adding these 2 together will show us a time of 13.14!! The margin of error is .0087! which means you may have just taken the crown as the king of the hill!! LOL!

This is gonna be pretty accurate Rygen.. If we plug the time into a ET calculator it shows us your RWHP as 305RWHP, which is pretty darn accurate.. Nice job man!

 

1+1=2

 

Now for Powerhouses Turbo, based on the numbers I am able to conclude a few things.. One is, the Powerhouse Turbo has a very good consistency ratio..

Looking at all 4 of Rygens run.. We see a few things..

Runs

1. • 1/8: 8.81= 13.215 ET

2. • 1/8: 8.76= 13.14 ET

3. • 1/8: 8.83= 13.245 ET

4. • 1/8: 8.84= 13.26 ET

So it looks like Mike Bowens main theme in regards to his product is consistency.. If we average out all the runs, the Powerhouse Turbo delivered on demand a consistency level of 13.215 ET for an average of all 4 runs.. Thats pretty **** good if you ask me.. I'm not sure how much time was in between runs, but it definatley delivered some good consistency for you..

 

Looks good on paper... but, take it to the track and prove it!

 

Something else which is really interesting is Rygens 60' time.. On the 8.76 run, he had a 60' of 2.28sec..

Rygen obviously has been somewhat taking my advice on the launch aspect, in regards to the pistons.. However, what this shows is, if he were to nail a launch of 2.0sec in the 60ft, this would place his 1/8th mile time at 8.48sec ET.. This would then transfer to the other end of the track as a 12.72ET in the 1/4 mile..

Taking a slightly different approach using the 13.14ET calculated earlier, I come up with a 12.86ET..

If I average these 2 times out, I come up with a 12.8ET, if the 60' time is at 2.0..

So it is my prediction that without changing anything on the car, Rygen next trip to the track should yield a 12.8ET if he can nail a 2.0 60' like he has done in the past..

@Rygen
Just looking at the numbers.. Looks to me as if your all set to run a 12.xx on your next time out.. I guess it is all in the 60'.. Interesting!

 

WTF? Is this true, Todd? Is MSP the reason you are doing so well at the track?

 

My real problem is my 60ft time, which frankly is horrible!!!!! 2.2 - 2.3 that night, crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There were several things I did wrong, out of lazyness and because I was not trying to break any records that night. One was I had like 75lbs of grear in the car, and because it was my first time to this particular track and didn't have friends in the pit, I didn't feel comfortable leaving my laptop bag, Zex bottle, tire, and other crap laying around. At Mason Dixon, I'm friends with some of the guys that have professional drag cars/trailers and they will let me stow my gear in thier rigs.

Second, was my Nittos! I didn't heat them up. I don't need to heat them up a lot, but they are harder rubber than the pneros and need to be heated up somewhat in order to get them sticky. And lastly, I was not launching hard enough. I havent found the balance between a good launch and spinning my tires. It is very easy to spin the tires on a hard launch on first, then again on second.

I will get it, when I got the juice it took two track visits to nail down my launch and get good times.

The car is night and day different than with juice. It's like driving a completely different car. I'm still really stoked about this turbo. The trap speed and the fact that the car still rips off very respectable times with significant human error is impressive.

I can't wait to see what a GT can do with it, Finn's GT was at powerhouse getting outfitted with a turbo for his car. I can't wait to see what times he puts down.