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Old Oct 5, 2024 | 10:00 AM
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Auto to TR3650 manual swap '05 V6 info

Hi everyone!

I have a 2005 V6 with a broken 5r55s..the third one...so now, i'm willing to swap a manual trans in it..i've already have the GT rear end to use with the trans and driveshaft, but I'm looking to collect all the informations to get the swap in the title done..so, first of all..does anyone have any information on it, and on how to do it?
Second, i've made a list down here with all the pieces i,at present time, know that are needed for the swap...could you please add the stuff that i'm missing/give me more informations on all of them?

Parts needed:

-TR3650 manual transmission
-Adapter plate to mate the tr3650 Bellhousing with the 4.0 block
-GT shifter, top side
-GT shifter boot
-GT ****
-clutch line
-Clutch/brake pedal assembly with clutch switches
-Clutch master cylinder
-Clutch cable jumper wire/harness from pedal to under-dash connector(i think it should be from a V6 manual,correct me if i'm wrong)
-Clutch(don't know precisely what type, but i know Specs could make them..i need one that will fit the 4.0 pressure plate)
-GT Driveshaft(i've read also that the one used in an auto trans car fits with the tr3650 because they're of the same lenght..someone could shed a light on this?)
-Manual PCM from a same year mustang V6, where you have to disable/reprogram the PATS (also here, i've seen a couple of vid's on the web where some folks were showing that using HPTuner or the SCT Racing tuning software you could disable the auto trans features and so use the auto PCM you already have..true or not?need more info here)
-Engine/Trans Harness from a same year Manual V6 (also here, looking at the same swap in the GT section, i've read that you could reuse your auto harness, modifying some connectors/soldering some wires..but i need more information on the matter to understand what i have to modify,what connectors, and so on..also i haven't understood if i need the connectors from a manual V6,or from a manual GT)

Thanks everybody for all the help you could give me!!
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Old Oct 5, 2024 | 11:46 AM
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Here's an attachment link below located in the repair and service thread subforum section... Perhaps you'll find it useful.

https://themustangsource.com/forums/...stions-551410/

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Old Oct 6, 2024 | 09:51 AM
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Welcome,

While I Don't Have Any Further Info at The Moment. I Would Be Curious as To Why 3 Failures of The Automatic?? I Have Never Heard of Them Being That Bad! Is It Something That May Cause an Issue With the Standard Trans as Well!

Here is a Thread Which Illustrates Some of The Swap Issues as Well And He Has Two Complete Cars.


https://themustangsource.com/forums/...stions-551410/

Upon Further Reflection,

Due To Your Location & All Parts Required I Really Think the Conversion Will Be Very Problematic. How About Getting a BULLITTPROOF Automatic!


https://www.monstertransmission.com/...SABEgLt9fD_BwE

In Regards To Adding a Dipstick to 5R55S!

https://themustangsource.com/forums/...ptions-551012/

KC
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Old Oct 6, 2024 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 05stangkc
Welcome,

While I Don't Have Any Further Info at The Moment. I Would Be Curious as To Why 3 Failures of The Automatic?? I Have Never Heard of Them Being That Bad! Is It Something That May Cause an Issue With the Standard Trans as Well!

Here is a Thread Which Illustrates Some of The Swap Issues as Well And He Has Two Complete Cars.


https://themustangsource.com/forums/...stions-551410/

Upon Further Reflection,

Due To Your Location & All Parts Required I Really Think the Conversion Will Be Very Problematic. How About Getting a BULLITTPROOF Automatic!


https://www.monstertransmission.com/...SABEgLt9fD_BwE

In Regards To Adding a Dipstick to 5R55S!

https://themustangsource.com/forums/...ptions-551012/

KC
I previously attached the same thread link to the OP in post #2

Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Here's an attachment link below located in the repair and service thread subforum section... Perhaps you'll find it useful.

https://themustangsource.com/forums/...stions-551410/
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Old Oct 6, 2024 | 03:20 PM
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I Thought You Were Just Posting a Link to Repair & Service Section Not a Thread. So I Did Not Check! But Shows You Got Good taste in Thread Content!

Kc
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Old Oct 7, 2024 | 05:30 PM
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The attachment link was also intended to include the thread content... My bad for not clarifying that sooner...LOL
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Old Oct 11, 2024 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Here's an attachment link below located in the repair and service thread subforum section... Perhaps you'll find it useful.

https://themustangsource.com/forums/...stions-551410/
Originally Posted by 05stangkc
Welcome,

While I Don't Have Any Further Info at The Moment. I Would Be Curious as To Why 3 Failures of The Automatic?? I Have Never Heard of Them Being That Bad! Is It Something That May Cause an Issue With the Standard Trans as Well!

Here is a Thread Which Illustrates Some of The Swap Issues as Well And He Has Two Complete Cars.


https://themustangsource.com/forums/...stions-551410/

Upon Further Reflection,

Due To Your Location & All Parts Required I Really Think the Conversion Will Be Very Problematic. How About Getting a BULLITTPROOF Automatic!


https://www.monstertransmission.com/...SABEgLt9fD_BwE

In Regards To Adding a Dipstick to 5R55S!

https://themustangsource.com/forums/...ptions-551012/

KC
Thanks to both for the hints..3 transmission because 2 got wiped using them(normal wearing),and one because of the lack of cooling(problem already solved)..all of them were used,so I'm feed up on putting in used transmissions that goes bad sooner or later..and hell expensive to repair.. however,I know that here in Italy would be difficult to get the stuff and everything for the swap,but I've quite found all from donor cars here;but unfortunately,i'm missing the adapter plate for the swap..and without it,I can't do anything other than installing another 5r55s..
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Old Oct 11, 2024 | 12:04 PM
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If you're unable to locate the adapter plate in your region, you could always look into having one shipped from the U.S... I would suggest looking into online vendors like https://www.americanmuscle.com/ or https://www.lmr.com/
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Old Oct 11, 2024 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
If you're unable to locate the adapter plate in your region, you could always look into having one shipped from the U.S... I would suggest looking into online vendors like https://www.americanmuscle.com/ or https://www.lmr.com/
Unfortunately,it isn't an adapter plate sold on AM or lmr..it is a custom adapter made by a fellow mustang owner,but discontinued
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Old Oct 11, 2024 | 01:11 PM
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I would Be Curious How Many Were Ever Made. It Would Likely Be a Super Rare Item To Find These Days Used or One Somebody Bought & Never Used!

Rocky If You Did Not See His Other Post This is What He is talking About . I Had Never Heard of This Till He Reactivated The Old Thread!


https://themustangsource.com/forums/...dapter-473553/

KC
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Old Oct 11, 2024 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 05stangkc
I would Be Curious How Many Were Ever Made. It Would Likely Be a Super Rare Item To Find These Days Used or One Somebody Bought & Never Used!

Rocky If You Did Not See His Other Post This is What He is talking About . I Had Never Heard of This Till He Reactivated The Old Thread!


https://themustangsource.com/forums/...dapter-473553/

KC
I think not that many have been made.. unfortunately,a trans swap in the 2010 onward in the V6 wasn't a cost effective mod to do..now that the stuff have become cheaper,it is a desirable mod to do..but the adapter is hard to come by
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Old Oct 11, 2024 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 05stangkc
I would Be Curious How Many Were Ever Made. It Would Likely Be a Super Rare Item To Find These Days Used or One Somebody Bought & Never Used!

Rocky If You Did Not See His Other Post This is What He is talking About . I Had Never Heard of This Till He Reactivated The Old Thread!


https://themustangsource.com/forums/...dapter-473553/

KC
Unfortunately, I missed the other post... Therefore, I have no clue as to where he can locate a source who can fabricate the adapter plate, he's attempting to access...
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