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What Supercharger Should I Get?!
9/12/08, 12:49 PM
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Hey, I found that artical about boost comparison and dyno comparison done by MMFF. They did the test on a 03 4v cobra crate engine on an engine dyno, but you can expect the same shaped graphs that they produce on the 3v. This is an excellent artical to read and a big help in deciding how you want your boost to come in and where you want the bulk of the power. I'm still all for twin screw, power everywhere!!
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...ion/index.html
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...ion/index.html
9/12/08, 07:49 PM
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I suggested the Saleen for you, but thought you might want to know why on Earth I choose the Vortech centrifugal blower...
I already had 4.10 gears and a big stall converter (thinking I'd never afford a blower). So, when the money came along to get a blower (unexpectedly), I decided to buy a blower that worked well with the gears and converter I already spent good money on. So...
Centrifugal starts making great boost/power by 4,500 rpm's. The 4.10's really help get the car going and my stall converter flashes to at least 4,500 rpm's, so at WOT I'm always at 4,500 rpm's minimum. The centri pulls hard all the way to redline, then the stall converter keeps the rev's at 4,500 rpm's minimum on each shift, so my car is always in the centri's powerband at WOT.
A car with a centrifugal and the right combination of parts (that work in the same rpm range) can be quite fast. It's all about matching the right parts together.
I already had 4.10 gears and a big stall converter (thinking I'd never afford a blower). So, when the money came along to get a blower (unexpectedly), I decided to buy a blower that worked well with the gears and converter I already spent good money on. So...
Centrifugal starts making great boost/power by 4,500 rpm's. The 4.10's really help get the car going and my stall converter flashes to at least 4,500 rpm's, so at WOT I'm always at 4,500 rpm's minimum. The centri pulls hard all the way to redline, then the stall converter keeps the rev's at 4,500 rpm's minimum on each shift, so my car is always in the centri's powerband at WOT.
A car with a centrifugal and the right combination of parts (that work in the same rpm range) can be quite fast. It's all about matching the right parts together.
9/13/08, 02:30 PM
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9/14/08, 10:17 AM
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IMO, if your going to spend $6K for a twin screw, get a Whipple or KB. They arnt limited to only 15 psi. I dont see why people buy the Saleen blower when its the same price as other TC's and cant keep up.
9/14/08, 10:35 AM
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I suggested the Saleen for you, but thought you might want to know why on Earth I choose the Vortech centrifugal blower...
I already had 4.10 gears and a big stall converter (thinking I'd never afford a blower). So, when the money came along to get a blower (unexpectedly), I decided to buy a blower that worked well with the gears and converter I already spent good money on. So...
Centrifugal starts making great boost/power by 4,500 rpm's. The 4.10's really help get the car going and my stall converter flashes to at least 4,500 rpm's, so at WOT I'm always at 4,500 rpm's minimum. The centri pulls hard all the way to redline, then the stall converter keeps the rev's at 4,500 rpm's minimum on each shift, so my car is always in the centri's powerband at WOT.
A car with a centrifugal and the right combination of parts (that work in the same rpm range) can be quite fast. It's all about matching the right parts together.
I already had 4.10 gears and a big stall converter (thinking I'd never afford a blower). So, when the money came along to get a blower (unexpectedly), I decided to buy a blower that worked well with the gears and converter I already spent good money on. So...
Centrifugal starts making great boost/power by 4,500 rpm's. The 4.10's really help get the car going and my stall converter flashes to at least 4,500 rpm's, so at WOT I'm always at 4,500 rpm's minimum. The centri pulls hard all the way to redline, then the stall converter keeps the rev's at 4,500 rpm's minimum on each shift, so my car is always in the centri's powerband at WOT.
A car with a centrifugal and the right combination of parts (that work in the same rpm range) can be quite fast. It's all about matching the right parts together.
Jed
9/14/08, 11:24 AM
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I ruled out the Whipple due to the price increase that happened a week or 2 ago. Now about a thousand dollars more expensive...
9/14/08, 12:08 PM
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People buy the Saleen because unless you're ultimately looking for 550-600+ rwhp, it will do the job and make tons of torque down low. When you say "can't keep up" you should preface that by saying "can't keep up if you want more power than 99.9% of any street car will have" lol, plus you can start off with it and maintain your factory warrenty, which that is of interest to some people.
9/14/08, 01:00 PM
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People buy the Saleen because unless you're ultimately looking for 550-600+ rwhp, it will do the job and make tons of torque down low. When you say "can't keep up" you should preface that by saying "can't keep up if you want more power than 99.9% of any street car will have" lol, plus you can start off with it and maintain your factory warrenty, which that is of interest to some people.
True. I guess the fact that it cant go past 15 psi while its competitors can go up to 24 is what turns me away from it.
Now if I found one for uber cheap, then yeah I'd get it haha.
9/14/08, 01:36 PM
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That's cool, I dig it...... I see you have a turbo planned, it will certainly make mega boost if you want it to.
9/14/08, 02:00 PM
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I'm a KB guy myself, wanted the option of going 20+ psi once I blew my stock motor up and went built, plus I liked where the put the air filter, outside the engine compartment. And, polished aluminum is purty! 
But, for your choices, Saleen Breenspeed kit is the way to go. I'd get an intercooler without a doubt! Then again, I just jogged 6 miles in 97F/110F heat index, so maybe I'm just hot? Ha!
One look under Tom's hood and his track numbers would make up my mind.
But, for your choices, Saleen Breenspeed kit is the way to go. I'd get an intercooler without a doubt! Then again, I just jogged 6 miles in 97F/110F heat index, so maybe I'm just hot? Ha!
One look under Tom's hood and his track numbers would make up my mind.
9/14/08, 02:40 PM
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Dang man, that's crazy nuts...... I tried exercising but it's hard to run and drink beer simultaneously.
9/14/08, 02:46 PM
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It's all about balance, ha!
9/14/08, 03:27 PM
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9/14/08, 05:24 PM
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With what you got listed. I'd pick Saleen. Don't settle for non-intercooled.
Although I will say I do enjoy my Vortech, going to have it retuned(again) in two weeks with a new smaller pulley. Love how the power takes over and listening to the blow-off vavle inbetween shifts.
I don't know why others are saying there not getting any boost until 4500RPM, I see boost at under 3500 RPM. If I were to do it again, I'd go Turbo.
Although I will say I do enjoy my Vortech, going to have it retuned(again) in two weeks with a new smaller pulley. Love how the power takes over and listening to the blow-off vavle inbetween shifts.
I don't know why others are saying there not getting any boost until 4500RPM, I see boost at under 3500 RPM. If I were to do it again, I'd go Turbo.
9/14/08, 05:56 PM
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"That List" doesn't show rear end ratio. I know the NA (Jimmy 3s) car has some 4.8- ratio which is nuts! Suspension setup, gearing, and how power is made combine to make a perfect setup. Strip setups aren't always what everyone is looking to achieve.
I know I wouldn't be dissappointed with Don's setup (seen his videos), but I personally have an NA car that I'm looking to do 350 hp to the wheels with and then fix the trans to make it fast on a road coarse.
From the choices listed above, the Novi 2200 makes hella power to the wheels and is driveable all day on the street. The Saleen gets my vote for sexy install and tire melting fun.
I know I wouldn't be dissappointed with Don's setup (seen his videos), but I personally have an NA car that I'm looking to do 350 hp to the wheels with and then fix the trans to make it fast on a road coarse.
From the choices listed above, the Novi 2200 makes hella power to the wheels and is driveable all day on the street. The Saleen gets my vote for sexy install and tire melting fun.