169stang

Hello, I wrote to Whipple in regards to pricing and availability and this is his reply.

David,

Were looking at a late Jan. release date and will begin taking orders Jan. 3rd. Pricing should be near $5000 for a complete intercooled kit. An unintercooled kit should be available later in the year (tenetive plans).

Thanks,
Dustin
Whipple Superchargers

I'm not sure what the diff. is between intercooled and unintercooled is, but if someone can elaborate, I'd appreciate it. So......we're talking roughly 5-6 weeks. Can't wait!

NipplelessHorse

the intercooler is like a radiator, it cools the air going into the supercharge since having a blower can increase heat a lot... running an intercooler lets you use more boost too since you won't heat up as soon.

Import-Slaya

Not any cheaper than the Kenne-Bell kit, though.

creedog

See Dave, I told you. You need to hold off on any mods until this kit comes out. You will not need anything (cai, gears, pullies, exhaust, tune, ect..) except this kit to make GREAT POWER. More than you will ever need on the street. The intercooled kit is the only way to go. It cools the air coming into the system, helps against detonation, and you can increase the boost. Detonation is very bad in these cars, esp ones w/o forged internals. If this kit is anywhere close to the 2V Kenne Bell 9lb intercooled kit these cars will scream. About the same price as well. If this my route then the following:

Whipple intercooled kit
Shifter - just because it is better than stock
Axle back exhaust system - for sound only
New wheels/tires - update the look
Front brakes upgraded - more power, need to stop better

There you go, a very nice clean ride w/ about 425-450 to the rear wheels!
Can you say sleeper!!! B)

slegos888

colder air=more hp and safer to run

ilesjohn

Got to have a supercharger, great info, I will wait though to see what kenny bell comes out with

MrMorden

Both the Whipple and the KB are twin screw superchargers. They will produce similar power, assuming they are sized similarly and have equally efficient intakes. I don't know how big the Whipple is, but the KB kit will almost certainly be a 1.7L Autorotor supercharger, with a 2.2L unit maybe available later.

These kits produce more heat that a centrifugal SC like the Vortech, so an intercooler is HIGHLY recommended. These will be great street kits, because the twin screw SCs make great low-end torque.

Good luck!

swingle007

Both sound great.....Can't wait to hear some #'s on the KB kit...

ZERO

that's who i was watching too. a KB twin screw.

B)

169stang

I just got an email from Kenne Bell and this was their response.

We are still working on the system for the 05 Mustang the system will not be available for about 3 to 4 months.

Thanks for your inquiry,
Kenne Bell Tech
10743 Bell CT.
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730
909-941-6646 Orders
909-944-4883 Tech
kennebell.net Web site
kennebell@kennebell.net Email

Sonic 05

Hey guys I'm new to the supercharger world but they sound great. What is the down sjde to supurcharging your stang?? Will it void the warentee??

ZERO

ummm...i'd probably say yes. although it's not a modification to the inside of the engine. i guess you'd have to talk to the service manager of your dealership to see. but when you add that much more horsepower it would probably be pretty easy for someone to say, yes the SC did it.

i also wondered, say it doesn't void the warranty and you ahve to take it in for service. then you've got people in there working on your car that may or may not know what to do with a supercharger attached.

i guess the only way to know is to call and see if it voids your warranty, but i think i remember this already being answered w/ a yes.

Dan460

Yes, it will void your warranty. The 03/04 Cobras come with a supercharger and Ford has been voiding warrantys at any sign of a pulley change or chip/tune. It will also make you and your local tire dealer good friends.

The 96-01 Cobras where notorious for letting go with boost, sometimes with the stock Vortech kits. I have a friend that has a 97 that popped his motor the first time at the drag strip after installing his Vortech. He had forged rods and pistons installed after that(along with more boost and appropriate fuel system mods.) and now it makes 580+ RWHP. I've read posts here that the new motor is no stronger and some that say it is much better. I guess time will tell. Whipple claims they are doing a lot of durability testing on the 05 kit. They also said in that other thread that it was putting down 460+ RWHP. After driving a 430RWHP Cobra daily for the last year, I would be happy with 400-430 RWHP in my 05.

I hope Kenne Bell and Whipple don't try to out do each other with HP and boost numbers and forget about reliability.

Shea

KBs are more efficient than Whipples, just FYI. That means they run cooler w/out an intercooler, and produce better numbers.

clintoris

Do they not both run a Lysholm compressor?

Dan460

Do they not both run a Lysholm compressor? [/b][/quote]

Yea, that's what I was going to say. They are both great and more efficient than the Eaton(Roots style aka the Heaton). They still create a lot of heat, just not as much as the Eaton. With an intercooler you can safely get away with boost on pump gas.