Suspension Gurus I Need Your Opinion
Mach 1 Member
Joined: April 16, 2006
Posts: 912
Likes: 0
From: Colorado
Dear John,
To get the most pertinent input from TMS members on recommendations, I would suggest you use your 6 lines of additional signature to list what you currently have done and what your immediate plans are going. This way, we can look at your train of thought and help you in the right direction.
To get the most pertinent input from TMS members on recommendations, I would suggest you use your 6 lines of additional signature to list what you currently have done and what your immediate plans are going. This way, we can look at your train of thought and help you in the right direction.
Member
Joined: August 24, 2008
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: Chesapeake, Va.
IMO Steeda is great. I'm a little bias since that what I have on my car. I have the sport springs. I have riden in a car with Steeda competition springsand the ride is a little too harsh for me on some of the rough roads around here, but the sports springs seem to ride just a tad better. They are very nice springs. The ride height is perfect.
As far as relocation brackets go with the CHE ones if you aren't going with a serious drop. More than 1 1/2" I would say go with the Steeda ones since they have more adjustmnet. Steeda requires welding. CHE doesn't if you aren't throwing down a ton of HP. They should still be welded, but not required.
CHE and BMR have nice LCA and panhard bars. I have a BMR adjustable panhard bar and I think it's a very quality part. I have seen their LCA also and have the same opinion. CHE's axle brace is pretty sweet. I am using LCA brackets from Griggs as a pattern to make up my own and since I think there should be more material to these things and incorporate them into the CHE axle brace.
As far as camber bolts go don't bother. Get some camber plates. Steeda, J&M or Maximum Motor Sports. I have the Steeda Camber plates. If you have the struts off already to change the springs go ahead and get rid of the factory piece of crap plastic ones. They offer more adjustment and they are easier for the alignment shop to work with.
As far as shocks and struts. Steeda's Pro Action Shocks. Great shock. Just as good as any of the adjustables and I never have to get out of my car to adjust them when I all of a sudden want to rip it up. As far as I am concerned I want my springs and sway bars doing my suspension work for me. I shouldn't have to worry about adjusting my shocks to improve performance. And most of us don't drive our cars to the point of needing adjustable shocks. I trust Steeda on their advice to me.
As far as relocation brackets go with the CHE ones if you aren't going with a serious drop. More than 1 1/2" I would say go with the Steeda ones since they have more adjustmnet. Steeda requires welding. CHE doesn't if you aren't throwing down a ton of HP. They should still be welded, but not required.
CHE and BMR have nice LCA and panhard bars. I have a BMR adjustable panhard bar and I think it's a very quality part. I have seen their LCA also and have the same opinion. CHE's axle brace is pretty sweet. I am using LCA brackets from Griggs as a pattern to make up my own and since I think there should be more material to these things and incorporate them into the CHE axle brace.
As far as camber bolts go don't bother. Get some camber plates. Steeda, J&M or Maximum Motor Sports. I have the Steeda Camber plates. If you have the struts off already to change the springs go ahead and get rid of the factory piece of crap plastic ones. They offer more adjustment and they are easier for the alignment shop to work with.
As far as shocks and struts. Steeda's Pro Action Shocks. Great shock. Just as good as any of the adjustables and I never have to get out of my car to adjust them when I all of a sudden want to rip it up. As far as I am concerned I want my springs and sway bars doing my suspension work for me. I shouldn't have to worry about adjusting my shocks to improve performance. And most of us don't drive our cars to the point of needing adjustable shocks. I trust Steeda on their advice to me.
Thread Starter
Cobra Member
Joined: February 10, 2005
Posts: 1,064
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey
Dear John,
To get the most pertinent input from TMS members on recommendations, I would suggest you use your 6 lines of additional signature to list what you currently have done and what your immediate plans are going. This way, we can look at your train of thought and help you in the right direction.
To get the most pertinent input from TMS members on recommendations, I would suggest you use your 6 lines of additional signature to list what you currently have done and what your immediate plans are going. This way, we can look at your train of thought and help you in the right direction.
i appreciate that, but maybe i dont want you to know my train of thought.
lol
Thread Starter
Cobra Member
Joined: February 10, 2005
Posts: 1,064
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey
Dear John,
To get the most pertinent input from TMS members on recommendations, I would suggest you use your 6 lines of additional signature to list what you currently have done and what your immediate plans are going. This way, we can look at your train of thought and help you in the right direction.
To get the most pertinent input from TMS members on recommendations, I would suggest you use your 6 lines of additional signature to list what you currently have done and what your immediate plans are going. This way, we can look at your train of thought and help you in the right direction.
Thread Starter
Cobra Member
Joined: February 10, 2005
Posts: 1,064
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey
what i guess im looking to do is carve corners,improved traction,lower 60ft times when i head to the tract.
i guess im looking to do any and every suspension part i can put on the car so to say(complete suspension set up). sorry if im not making any sense to your guys.
i guess im looking to do any and every suspension part i can put on the car so to say(complete suspension set up). sorry if im not making any sense to your guys.
Thread Starter
Cobra Member
Joined: February 10, 2005
Posts: 1,064
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey
Dear John,
To get the most pertinent input from TMS members on recommendations, I would suggest you use your 6 lines of additional signature to list what you currently have done and what your immediate plans are going. This way, we can look at your train of thought and help you in the right direction.
To get the most pertinent input from TMS members on recommendations, I would suggest you use your 6 lines of additional signature to list what you currently have done and what your immediate plans are going. This way, we can look at your train of thought and help you in the right direction.
also when i started this thread, i was simply trying to find out what were the better products and i remember posting and saying that i was looking at che and bmr. i mentioned also that i have "plans" to buy a whole range of suspension parts and was LOOKING to find out who made a better product.
Mach 1 Member
Joined: April 16, 2006
Posts: 912
Likes: 0
From: Colorado
STEEDA. Do the whole thing like a Q-car. They have unbelievable 60' times, Lateral G forces, and win on the track. Do the watts link and skip all the panhard b.s. and do the Comp Springs with D-Specs and nobody will come close to you overall.
Mach 1 Member
Joined: May 17, 2006
Posts: 939
Likes: 0
also when i started this thread, i was simply trying to find out what were the better products and i remember posting and saying that i was looking at che and bmr. i mentioned also that i have "plans" to buy a whole range of suspension parts and was LOOKING to find out who made a better product.
Thread Starter
Cobra Member
Joined: February 10, 2005
Posts: 1,064
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey
Bullitt Member
Joined: August 13, 2007
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
No offense to your way of thinking, but why are you selecting your dampers before settling on a spring rate? The suspension has to function as a system, from bushings, to springs, to damper settings.
I have absolutely nothing against Tein, but I think it's kind of doing the cart before the horse thing. If you go to the Griggs setup, for example, you won't HAVE struts up front, and they do coil-over rears, not weight jackers, so you'd be SOL there as well.
While you can improve on the stock suspension, and improve on both strip and track capability, it will come with a trade-off in ride harshness and/or noise transmission. Once you do some of the basics, then anything you do beyond that will start to help either the strip or the track, and hurt the other. Deleting the front swaybar is a pretty simple way to save some weight and get better transferrance to the rear wheels at the drag strip, but is NOT what you want trying to take a 40mph corner at 70mph...
Just food for thought.
I have absolutely nothing against Tein, but I think it's kind of doing the cart before the horse thing. If you go to the Griggs setup, for example, you won't HAVE struts up front, and they do coil-over rears, not weight jackers, so you'd be SOL there as well.
While you can improve on the stock suspension, and improve on both strip and track capability, it will come with a trade-off in ride harshness and/or noise transmission. Once you do some of the basics, then anything you do beyond that will start to help either the strip or the track, and hurt the other. Deleting the front swaybar is a pretty simple way to save some weight and get better transferrance to the rear wheels at the drag strip, but is NOT what you want trying to take a 40mph corner at 70mph...
Just food for thought.
Thread Starter
Cobra Member
Joined: February 10, 2005
Posts: 1,064
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey
the tein is a kit. i think its the SS kit to be exact, so yes i do have the spring rate in mind. i realize they all have to work together, i am prepared for a harsher ride as well and noise transmission. I do plan on bringing the car to the track and driving "aggressively" on the streets lol. You mentioned deleting the front sway bar, but i have plans on getting the hotchkis sway bar kit so therefore instead of deleting the sway bar plus somekits have you go with a lightweight radiator support, i will just look into steeda's lightweigh rad support and be able to keep my sway bar
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post