Repling to ghostgt...
so, per the topic to this thread...you would rather choose a s/c over nitrous? Get on topic already

 

169 I've already answered this. I'd take the SC.


BTW, This IS on topic, and we are discussing pros/cons/dangers of each.

 

lol
I'm moving your way too George! Just working from the bottom up!
I look forward to cheating too.

 

I know you did...in post #62. Generalizing that everyone is tempted to spray on the street is I suppose a danger of nitrous.

 

Yup...(unless your post has some sort of sarcasm in it, which I haven't caught yet. )

 

OMFG, please stop using the NOS already, its N2O people.

Three characters but replace the OS with 2O.

With all the money I have into the car right now I could have installed a Vortech cheapo kit but could not have run as fast as I can with my nitrous setup.

-Dan

 

I say its up to the owner. Myself, I would rather go with a supercharger kit.

 

Of course its up to the owner...its all about who thinks what; hence, opinion.

That's why I hate it when *some* people try to argue/change others' opinions simply because it conflicts with what they think is right.

 

Forced Induction is better, but more expensive. I prefer a turbocharger, but the Saleen kit is engineered so well it's a no brainer. Depends what your goal really is; Nitrous can only get you so far.

 

I had no sarcasm in that post, but spraying on the street would mean racing on the street and that is more dangerous than plain running nitrous at the track.

 

What do you mean? I said in a previous post that I saw a 3 stage nitrous car whoop up on a twin turbo. Both ran 5's in the 8th, but the nitrous car still won. It's my opinion that it's how well built your engine is that is the limiting factor.

 

Pfffft, I'm on the nitrous side of the argument (even though I voted for an s/s), but I'm not going to lie to anyone and say I wouldn't be tempted to hit a remote bottle opener when challenged on the street... I'm not saying you would, but I think a lot of people would, so lets stop playing that card and talk about it...

I, for one, would love a "street" nitrous setup. One where my setup was wired such that the bottle warmer and remote bottle opener activated upon ignition and turned off / closed when the engine is killed.

Someone tell me how to setup that rig and lets stop scuffling among ourselves...

 

Nitrous is cheap power, simple as that. Forced induction will ultimately make more power. A good indicator of this is trap speed. The nitrous 05's don't trap near what a well tuned FI system traps. Also, nitrous doesn't work on a road course, which I like to do every once in a while.

 

Point taken, but who cares if it's cheap? Power is power and I'll take it anyway I can...or more importantly, any way I can afford it. I'm not sure if this is the angle you were going for, but "cheap" doesn't mean bad. heck, our Mustangs are "cheap" compared to the new BMW 3 series, but our "cheap" is still "faster"... To put it another way, I'm not going to dismiss the mod just because it's "cheap."

 

BTW, trap speeds are a direct representation of the power to weight figures. If a well tuned nitrous setups makes X amount of power and an SC setup makes that same X amount of power chances are they are going to trap the same. The SC and Turbo cars may be traping higher cause they are making more power to the rear but the ETs have been lower thus far.

I like nitrous cause it IMO offers more "tunability" than any turbo or SC application. RPM activation, delay boxes, managment units, etc.

And another by the way, nitrous can work in any driving application, even your road course (though your limiting factor is the size of the bottle). Decent solenoids are rated for 20 seconds worth of straight use before they need to be released.

-Dan

 

That is my point, therefore I agree with you 100%. Just because NO2 is a "limited amount" doesn't mean people WON'T spray on streets.

 

Now with this post, I would actually have commented on how eloquent it was, because he makes a very good reason why some would choose a SuperCharger over nitrous.. He mentions road racing... I cant give him a thumbs up because he is still of the mindset that Nitrous is cheating..

Now if we look at his statement, he mentions road racing.. I think of that statement like this.. There are hundreds of Mustang owners that would prefer to go road racing on the weekend, at various tracks around the country when there is an open session.. This is where you pay $25 or $50 bucks and can use the course or track.. This is a very valid reason for choosing a Supercharger over Nitrous...

There are hundreds of other Mustang owners who like to make 1/4 mile runs.. This is what gets their blood flowing.. They choose Nitrous because it can complete their wish of taking them down the 1/4 mile strip as fast as they want.. These owners must understand, that they are excluded from the road racing sessions, because they dont have the constant power of a Supercharger.. Thats fine, and they accept this...

One good thing about the SC owners, is they can compete or have fun at both types of events, where as the Nitrous guys have chosen to forgoe the road racing..

Its actually a really valid comment, that is probably the best here in regards to the entire discussion.. I just cant accept that he would say using Nitrous is cheating, if it does achieve the intention of the owner, which is to properly make fast 1/4 mile runs..

@GHostGT

I was only teasing you..

 

Nitrous, Supercharger, etc. It's all good! I say live and let live.