Where did you get an HO kit for that price?

 

From what I understand, the tune that is provided with the kit is fairly conservative from an A/F mixture perspective. It's a safe tune to run.

 

+1 Never heard/seen it that low before

 

In your case, if you were 100% not able to get a dyno tune- JDM does AMAZING things with their Saleen Blowers (What Tom281 Runs) and their canned mail order tunes. I've heard of people taking their JDM Mail Order Tuned Saleen blown Mustangs to the dyno to find out they are right on the money with no adjustments needed.

Just food for thought.

 

And as far as Saleens, I can vouch for Brenspeed too. They are quickly becoming a top selling Saleen outlet and I just dynoed their standard email tune on my car last weekend.... A/F was 11.8 and power was 453/425.

 

To get the A/F ratio right on the money throughout the powerband from idle to redline it would have to be adjusted far beyond what any mail order tune will offer. That's not to say that the A/F might be close or even right on the money in the upper rpm range where it matters most. When Kevin MacDonald has tuned my car he looks at the dyno A/F graph between runs and constantly brings several areas slightly in line for a smooth, even A/F progression to redline. I could see where a couple of areas were dipping and spiking on the gragh only to be perfected on the next couple of runs. Especially with a power adder he said you could make adjustments for days. All of the little drivability quirks, cold start tweeks and such can be worked out if they exist.

 

But Tom ur sig says 450/450

 

450/450 with stock 17" wheels/tires. 453/425 was this past weekend with 18" chrome DD bullitts. You figure it out LOL......

 

I can feel the dark side calling. And I don't mean Vettes, I mean blowers.

I'm trying to fight it, but its force is too strong.!

 

I'm gonna throw my .02 in for the Whipple. I've got a real conservative tune at 455rwhp/413 tq 16 degrees timing and a 11.1 A/F ratio. It has all the power for me that I feel comfortable enough to use on the stock bottom end. The instant power that just pulls and pulls is where it's at for me. Adding in the whine, well that's just icing on the cake. The stupid grin that I still get when I get on it and realize that I'm doing 80 or more without really trying is just too fun to pass up.

If you're going to do it I would remind you not to get too caught up in the numbers game. The Whipple can be tuned to some really great numbers without trying. There is someone with more money and more power than you, no matter what.

 

Picking a blower for my GT came down to matching one up to my combination and intended use. While I love the instant boost of a roots or twin screw, I already had the bottom end cured with 4.10 gears and a big stall converter that flashes to over 4,000 rpm's, so I needed top end more than bottom end power. Plus, I want to be able to launch without a "bunch" of drama, so a centrifugal blower or turbo helps in that respect as they build boost as rpm's rise. Turbo's are more money than I could swing, so I chose a centrifugal. Absolutely love it and it works great with my combo. Total cost for parts, labor to install, tax, etc. was just over $4600. The Vortech-supplied tune was very conservative (too conservative, but 50 state smog legal and 3/36 warranty), so I've been tweaking the tune on my own with very good results while I wait for my day at the dyno tuner.

As already said, every blower out there will provide great performance. There really isn't a bad, it's just a matter of picking one that matches your intended use and budget.

 

Well said...

 

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steve from tousely ford sells them for that price

 

Wow, nice!

 

I know where you can get the whipple HO kit for $5175 w/tax and shipping included or the "polished" version for $5475. pm me if interested.

I have a new Saleen SC that has been in a box here at my house since I bought it and I debated selling it and getting the whipple HO kit, since I found out where I could get them at the above prices. I got a great deal on the Saleen so by the time I ordered a JDM Stage 2 upgrade kit it would be cheaper for me to stick with the Saleen SC than to go with the whipple HO kit. After talking with Jim III at JDM, who sells Saleens and whipple's, he convinced me to stick with the Saleen.

 

As has been said, all the blowers are good. My personal preference is for the Vortech, its got the power where I want it, and reportedly gets up to 27mpg...
I think that it also looks better, Im not a big fan of exposed wiring, and belts, the only twin screw that looks really good IMO is the Saleen, but I still like the Vortech, and it's placement takes up an "empty" spot in the engine bay.

 

Ditto!