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**Steeda New Product Annoucement*** 13 Inch Rear Brakes

Old Jun 5, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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**Steeda New Product Annoucement*** 13 Inch Rear Brakes

We have just released a 13 inch rear brake conversion for 05-06 Mustangs

This kit will also fit the upcoming GT-500 Shelby.

http://www.steeda.com/images/rear_brake_13_01.jpg

Retail price 499.95. See this link for more info: http://www.steeda.com/products/steed...e_kit_s197.php

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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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SWEET!!!! Will this work with the Stop Tech Fronts? That is the kit that you guys use correct?
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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This kit will work well with any larger front brake kit. Some better than others. Our Steeda kit was specifically designed with piston sizing designed to have the best compatibility with the factory ABS system. If you already have the Stoptech system on your car this kit will be a great addition.

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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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will they fit behind the factory 17's?
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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Do you have to take your axles out in order to install these bad boys?
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 2L8IWON
Do you have to take your axles out in order to install these bad boys?
You do not have to take out axles to install brake kits.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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Price is not bad, how about a decent price for a upgrade to the front brakes.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ryan1112
You do not have to take out axles to install brake kits.
Um, I think you need to look at the brake kit again. These you will need to pull the axles.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Black3V
will they fit behind the factory 17's?
I'll have to ask engineering. I believe we did mock it up to a factory wheel but I cant remember myself what the answer was on fitment. I'll get the answer from the source and get back to you.

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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by redbullet
Um, I think you need to look at the brake kit again. These you will need to pull the axles.
If you are just doing a normal brake service upgrade (better pads and stock size rotors) then you do not to need to pull the axles.

Brake kits like ours that relocate the caliper do require you do remove the axles in order to remove the factory caliper mounting bracket and replace it with the new relocation bracket.

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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by traffic142
Price is not bad, how about a decent price for a upgrade to the front brakes.
We start with Baer 14 inch, 2-piston caliper brake kits at 1099.00. Then there is the Brembo 4-piston kits with 1-piece rotors for about 1950.00 and the Steeda 4 piston 14 inch kit with 2-piece rotors for 2395.00.

Brembo also has a 2 piece rotor, 4 piston caliper kit but it is considerably more expensive than our kit and is not matched as well to the factory ABS system as ours is.

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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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Gus,

Your brake kit is a rebranded stoptech kit, do you make any changes to it, besides putting Steeda on it.

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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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This is basically a cosmetic mod. Look at the FR500C and GT500 and notice what setup they are running in the rears.....The stock calipers/rotors with upgraded pads. Multimatic did a ton of track testing/r&d and of course Ford Racing obviously raced the cars in Grand Am Cup. Now the front brakes are a different story.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Lokius
Gus,

Your brake kit is a rebranded stoptech kit, do you make any changes to it, besides putting Steeda on it.

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No its not and engineering information on this kit is proprietary.

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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
This is basically a cosmetic mod. Look at the FR500C and GT500 and notice what setup they are running in the rears.....The stock calipers/rotors with upgraded pads. Multimatic did a ton of track testing/r&d and of course Ford Racing obviously raced the cars in Grand Am Cup. Now the front brakes are a different story.

No its not. We have test data co-engineered with Ford that shows otherwise. Plus we began research into rear brake set-ups long before the release of this kit on 99-04 cars. We have years or R&D into this, plus a funny story that shows the difference quite well.

During some drag testing on one of our development cars, before the brakes it was not too difficult to hold the car with the front brakes and do a quick burnout to heat the rear tires. The first time we went to do the same thing after the rear brakes were installed, the rear tires locked much harder and it caused the clutch to slip and barely moved the tires.

On track testing has also shown better braking control and balance, particularly when matched to our own 14 inch front kit. Although improvements were found with Baer's set up as well.

We also previously tested prototype 13 inch set ups that we never released for 99-04 cars. We were doing this testing over 4 years ago. On these cars which had even less rear brake effectiveness from the factory there was a noticeable decrease in nosedive due to the rear brakes taking on more of the load of stopping the vehicle.

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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SteedaGus
No its not. We have test data co-engineered with Ford that shows otherwise. Plus we began research into rear brake set-ups long before the release of this kit on 99-04 cars. We have years or R&D into this, plus a funny story that shows the difference quite well.

During some drag testing on one of our development cars, before the brakes it was not too difficult to hold the car with the front brakes and do a quick burnout to heat the rear tires. The first time we went to do the same thing after the rear brakes were installed, the rear tires locked much harder and it caused the clutch to slip and barely moved the tires.

On track testing has also shown better braking control and balance, particularly when matched to our own 14 inch front kit. Although improvements were found with Baer's set up as well.

We also previously tested prototype 13 inch set ups that we never released for 99-04 cars. We were doing this testing over 4 years ago. On these cars which had even less rear brake effectiveness from the factory there was a noticeable decrease in nosedive due to the rear brakes taking on more of the load of stopping the vehicle.

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I don't want to start an aruguement, but if Multimatic deemed it necessary to installl a rear BBK, their testing would have shown it. Below are the specs of the FR500C's braking system.

BRAKES
  • Front: Brembo 4 piston
  • Rear: Ford - stock
  • Master Cylinder: Ford - stock
  • ABS: Ford - stock
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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I am sorry but I can't believe you are arguing with somebody from Steeda Autosports.

They work directly with Ford on most of their stuff.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by scotts05custom
I am sorry but I can't believe you are arguing with somebody from Steeda Autosports.

They work directly with Ford on most of their stuff.
I am not arguing with him, rather presenting the facts. Go to Fordracing.com and look at the specs of the FR500C race car. You can also watch the Discovery show "Extreme Mustang" to see the development of the FR500C. The FR500C dominated the 2005 Grand Am Cup season on the stock brakes(with race pads, of course), that tells me that they are good enough for me.

If Gus has some test data that he would be willing to share, I'd love to see it.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by scotts05custom
I am sorry but I can't believe you are arguing with somebody from Steeda Autosports.

They work directly with Ford on most of their stuff.
Why not? The brakes that are sold on their website are rebranded Stop-techs. I think Gus is a little confused.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
I don't want to start an aruguement, but if Multimatic deemed it necessary to installl a rear BBK, their testing would have shown it. Below are the specs of the FR500C's braking system.

BRAKES
  • Front: Brembo 4 piston
  • Rear: Ford - stock
  • Master Cylinder: Ford - stock
  • ABS: Ford - stock

No argument, discussion is always good. Multimatic didn't develop any brake upgrades technically. They used someone else's product for the front (Brembo) and used the stock rear with better pads. Naturally cause until now, no one else had anything. Understandable since they developed that car close to 2 years ago. They did a great job with what they had.
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