why would anyone run LT's and then put cats on????? :scratch:

 

In my case, it would be to reduce/eliminate the "trumpeting" effect, as we discussed in your earlier thread: http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...9765&hl=trumpet

hawgman posted links to these LT/catted X-pipe systems on another forum:

Stainless Works

http://www.stainlessworks.net/cart/product...1d4f6830326a757

Kooks

http://www.kookscustomheaders.com/product_...to%20Cat%20back

Dynatech

http://www.secureperformanceorder.com/dyna...rd_mustang.html

 

ok I dont get the whole point of all of this BS, Richard said he didnt want to risk having an expensive fine imposed on him for running long tubes or no cats, Don asked him for a link to this information which he did provide, no one asked for a link to the exact law, so what the page was an interpretation of the law??? but it did qoute the law stating that one may be fined up to $2500 for removing or changing anything factory that has to do with emissions which is in fact the law whether it is interpretted one way or another, the fact remains that you can be fined $2500 for long tubes or removing your cats, or for shorties for that matter (as don pointed out) as the law is left vague.

here is how it went down in simple terms for all of u that dont know how to read.....

-Richard said fine for lts $2500 (federal or not its a fine that CAN be imposed since CA must obey federal laws as well as state)

-Don asked for a link, thats it, not a link to a specific law or to a CA law

-Richard provided link, interpretation of a law but also included wording from the law itself

-end result: richard was correct that u can be fined $2500 for lts, he did not present misinformation in anyway, he obliged don in his exact request and was slammed for it, wtf, he doesnt want to run the risk of being fined, so what, don if u wanted specificly a CA law then u shouldve asked for one, and what difference does it make are u only going to obey CA laws and not federal ones. People get busted for smoking pot in states that have made medicinal use legal, yet the federal government has not, the fact remains that federal law supercedes state law so if CA did say it was legal to run long tubes, no cats, no mufflers and dump black smoke out of your tailpipes then you may still be penalized under federal law who says it is illegal.

As for the comment about since when does having lts mean u have no cats, the original comments were made about JBAs header applications for the 2005+ Mustang GT, of which they only long tube set up they have is for a no cat setup of an offroad hpipe, being either 2.5" or 3" piping all the way back.

 

Why would anyone run shorties and use cats? It bet it would be for the same reason.

 

JBA does make a catted H-pipe for longtubes, BTW

http://www.jbaheaders.com/05mustangnew.asp

 

reread and I missed the part where they have the catted pipes, but I know several people at JBA including the guy in charge of deciding what products they will make and sell, and he had told me that theyre long tubes are designed only to bolt up to their offroad hpipes, of which they have 2 now, a 2.5" one they came out with in 2004 and a new 3" one that they debuted at SEMA this year so there is miscommunication of info somewhere. My bad

 

Not doing it to feel better. Just curious as to why when you were asked about something you posted you replied in such a smartazz manor, then went out of your way to be one by calling him a ***** (twice) when he questioned the information you so graciously provided.

 

I wasn't asked about something...I was very rudely asked to prove what I had posted. And I only made those comments, after it was implied that "there seems to be a problem with me doing this" (posting mis-information). thats why.

 

ok, I was under the impression that JBA's LTs only bolt up to off road hpipes. but there website says everything.

Richard, I guess we need to ask Mark

 

Direct copy/paste from "that page"

2.5" H-pipe with cats 6675SHC*

 

2.5" H-pipe with cats 6675SHC*

Call up your guy and ask about it then, or better yet check the post in this very forum from somebody who has sound clips of both on his car.

 

They show the LT catted H-pipes here too: http://www.jbaheaders.com/04productlistheadersauto.htm

But, since I want 1-3/4" tubes, they're no help for me.

 

Maybe it was because of the smartazz way he "obliged" that warranted the slam

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Originally posted by SurfnSoCal@December 13, 2005, 7:11 PM
um...sure. ever heard of google?

http://www.off-road.com/dodge/tech/Emissions_Legal.htm

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As for the comment about since when does having lts mean u have no cats, the original comments were made about JBAs header applications for the 2005+ Mustang GT, of which they only long tube set up they have is for a no cat setup of an offroad hpipe, being either 2.5" or 3" piping all the way back.

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Not according to their product page...
2.5" H-pipe with cats 6675SHC*

 

Let it go doc. They cleared it up between themselves and its cool now.

 

Yea, wow. I can see how he was really rude. He sure jumped you when he asked for a link. Why, as much of an azzhole as he was with his comments, I don't even know how you read the whole post.
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Is there a link that shows that?

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eace:

 

I edited my post and like I said in my edit, my bad I missed that on their page, I never really looked before since I dont have their lts on my car and was only going off of what they guy had originally told me a while ago, I just got off the phone with him about other unrelated topics, but I did ask and he did confirm that they did have the catted hpipes for the lts, I appologize for not being up to date on info that doesnt pertain to my car, sheesh.

 

Nobody expected you to be, all I said was "BTW they have them"... you're the one that got all defensive, for what reason I have no idea

 

so, are long tubes subject to possible fines? or just running with no cats?

 

LMAO...