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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Just a misunderstanding there gentlemen, I'm sure.....

FWIW I would much rather have a blower over nitrous. I'm looking at the Paxton kit from Brenspeed because it's hp & tq numbers are great and is about a grand cheaper than a Saleen blower or something similar. The Kenne Bell kits and Whipple kits are awesome, but man the cost is more than I want to spend. I'd rather go with a centrifugal blower and spend the money saved on wheels & tires. JMO.
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by S197 GT
Come on now!

I'm saying that the 2.6L is RATED at 950HP!

I'm not even close to those numbers!

Reread my post, and you'll see that I was referring to the potential of the Kenne Bell.

Boo this man!
Perhaps I need to read better and you need to type a little clearer. You do use the word potential one time in the middle of your post when refering to superchargers. But, I keyed off the last sentence you wrote."Mine is rated at 950 hp." If your intent was different it might have been worded differently. Sorry.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 01:42 AM
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I have a daily driver (over 58K miles) and like the fact that the N20 is only there when I need it. The kit was cheap, I did the install myself, and its easily adjustable by just changing jets. No belts or tensioners to break. The highest my bottle pressure has ever climbed during a hot summer day was 1400psi, well below the 3000 psi bursting point of the SAFETY VALVE, which you have your blow down tube connected to, which will allow the N20 to safely exit the trunk in case you do exceded 3000psi.
Remember also N20 does dramatically cool the intake charge, but even so, I don't think I would ever push my car in 135 degree heat no matter what power adder I had. Could you imagine what the DA would be like?
I have seen at the track a few people run a blower combined with a 50 shot of N20 to cool the intake charge.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by psfracer
I have a daily driver (over 58K miles) and like the fact that the N20 is only there when I need it. The kit was cheap, I did the install myself, and its easily adjustable by just changing jets. No belts or tensioners to break. The highest my bottle pressure has ever climbed during a hot summer day was 1400psi, well below the 3000 psi bursting point of the SAFETY VALVE, which you have your blow down tube connected to, which will allow the N20 to safely exit the trunk in case you do exceded 3000psi.
Remember also N20 does dramatically cool the intake charge, but even so, I don't think I would ever push my car in 135 degree heat no matter what power adder I had. Could you imagine what the DA would be like?
I have seen at the track a few people run a blower combined with a 50 shot of N20 to cool the intake charge.

Excellent points, thanks!
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 08:05 AM
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Well thats what I was just going to say, is there some reason you cant do both. Supercharger cranking off the line, and top end hit the nitrous. I was thinking is there some reason you cant do both? I have never messed with nitrous, so don't know much about them. I have had a supercharger and know a little bit about them. Are there people out there running both, or turbo and nitrous as stated. This is an interesting idea I had not really thought of.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 70MACH1OWNER
Perhaps I need to read better and you need to type a little clearer. You do use the word potential one time in the middle of your post when refering to superchargers. But, I keyed off the last sentence you wrote."Mine is rated at 950 hp." If your intent was different it might have been worded differently. Sorry.
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Exactly, you could have read into it more, and I definitely could have been more clear with my statement.

No harm, no foul.

I was meaning that the potential of these 2.6L are rediculous.

I personally am at 423.8 rwhp and 394.0 rwtq. But this blower can easily get me into the 700 rwhp range! I just need to beef up my guts.

Originally Posted by sodaman
Well thats what I was just going to say, is there some reason you cant do both. Supercharger cranking off the line, and top end hit the nitrous. I was thinking is there some reason you cant do both? I have never messed with nitrous, so don't know much about them. I have had a supercharger and know a little bit about them. Are there people out there running both, or turbo and nitrous as stated. This is an interesting idea I had not really thought of.
I would prefer to have the N2O coming off the line, than a blower. I'm sure Psfracer will say the same.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 70MACH1OWNER
Perhaps I need to read better and you need to type a little clearer. You do use the word potential one time in the middle of your post when refering to superchargers. But, I keyed off the last sentence you wrote."Mine is rated at 950 hp." If your intent was different it might have been worded differently. Sorry.
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I understood him just fine...to RATE something refers to identifying its maximum potential, not necessarily using all that potential.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by S197 GT
Exactly, you could have read into it more, and I definitely could have been more clear with my statement.

No harm, no foul.

I was meaning that the potential of these 2.6L are rediculous.

I personally am at 423.8 rwhp and 394.0 rwtq. But this blower can easily get me into the 700 rwhp range! I just need to beef up my guts.



I would prefer to have the N2O coming off the line, than a blower. I'm sure Psfracer will say the same.

We're cool. I just saw that "950" and jumped to conclusions. I know what the Kennebell can do. I had a "96 Cobra that I used his blower on. It was great for 2 years at 6-7 lbs. Then I got greedy and pumped it up to 10-12 lbs. with no intercooler. Ka-BOOM!!!!!! Keep it in the safe limits of the stock bottom end and you'll be fine.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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If you buy the Kenne Bell you don't need to finda good tuner over there. They give you a great street tune and you can purchase their "shootout" tune for an additional $99.00 that has a lot more aggressive timing and a/f ratio.
If you think you can get some dude to develop a better tune in a few hours that Kenne Bell did in weeks of testing then go for it.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by uberPony
If you buy the Kenne Bell you don't need to finda good tuner over there. They give you a great street tune and you can purchase their "shootout" tune for an additional $99.00 that has a lot more aggressive timing and a/f ratio.
If you think you can get some dude to develop a better tune in a few hours that Kenne Bell did in weeks of testing then go for it.

Hey Gerry,
Type up you sig. so we all can see what your running. Your leaving us in the dark.
Scott
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 70MACH1OWNER
Hey Gerry,
Type up you sig. so we all can see what your running. Your leaving us in the dark.
Scott
I believe he's running the Kenne Bell 2.4L at 10 psi. If I remember correctly, I think he just broke into the 11's. I may be confusing him with someone else though.
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Signature was there I thought....
I have been running a KB 2.4 for 20 months. I have been at 11 PSI for a year.
I have not "recently" broke in to the elevens - but have been running mid to low 11s on this kit since 06 .

I would recommend a twin-screw like a KB or Whipple or Saleen - and just use the tune supplied with the kit if you are in Kuwait. I have a custom dyno tune now but I ran the KB tunes for a year and they ran great. You should have access to high octane fuel over there.
Nitrous is a blast for sure, I have it in my FOX body but the thing is it is always required to have bottle open, have the bottle up to temperature and be armed.
The supercharger is always there and can be used for passing at any time.
Many folks running a centrifugal supercharger will use a small shot of N2O to get the car launched on the line before the boost is built up. You don't really need it with a twin-screw. I would just start with an intercooled twin-screw kit and go from there.
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