My thoughts on Steeda Pullies
You've got to have a deadly but-o-meter to feel a gain of about 10hp or so, no matter what mod it is. You'd probably notice a difference in the 1/4 though.
As for the car reving faster, I have no clue, don't have mine yet.
As for the car reving faster, I have no clue, don't have mine yet.
Yah i'm sure on the track it brings the numbers but on the street the car feels the same. Maybe a tinge faster.
Nothing like when I got my first mod...the CL CAI and Predator 93 tune...holy ******** tuesday it was a different car!
revs?
Nothing like when I got my first mod...the CL CAI and Predator 93 tune...holy ******** tuesday it was a different car!
revs?
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Add the Mezeire electric water pump to the Steeda pullies and you will definitely notice the difference. Probably worth 15-18 rwhp in combo. I like it. And after 6 months with both on I see absolutely no issues.
Scott
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Originally posted by 70MACH1OWNER@January 6, 2006, 3:35 PM
Add the Mezeire electric water pump to the Steeda pullies and you will definitely notice the difference. Probably worth 15-18 rwhp in combo. I like it. And after 6 months with both on I see absolutely no issues.
Scott
Add the Mezeire electric water pump to the Steeda pullies and you will definitely notice the difference. Probably worth 15-18 rwhp in combo. I like it. And after 6 months with both on I see absolutely no issues.
Scott
That sounds like a good idea....jeezuz when will it stop lol.
Originally posted by Nick85@January 6, 2006, 4:19 PM
Hardly notice a difference...am I missing something?
Hardly notice a difference...am I missing something?
When I had first installed them and took it for a spin, I really didn't notice any difference during wide open throttle, although I am sure there is some. Although I did notice a slight difference in the mid-range, (2500-4500 RPM) under my normal driving. I'm not sure if the difference I could feel was more power or just the engine being able to rev up a little faster/easier than in stock form, which would get it to the peak torque (4500 RPM) faster, or probably a little of both.
I still think it's a good mod for the money, but just don't expect a night and day difference.
I agree that it's a subtle mod for the street driven stang.
On the strip it's another story though.
I gained 13/100ths of a second with the U/D pulleys.
If I wanted to make the same gains by weight reduction I would need to remove 130lbs from the car.
On the strip it's another story though.
I gained 13/100ths of a second with the U/D pulleys.
If I wanted to make the same gains by weight reduction I would need to remove 130lbs from the car.
just opinion/thoughts...
I've always thought unless you were racing with a/c on max and a dead battery that any gain would not be noticed...if battery is charged and accessories off the only 'feel' you should get would be slightly quicker rpm 'acceleration' (and slightly less shock at dumping clutch).
as far as revving faster, compared to inertia in rotational mass in motor/flywheel, change will be minor...if you want to rev quicker, an aluminum flywheel would be a investment that you might really feel in my opinion...
as to electric water pumps- we run 20 hp 100 psi coolant systems on our machining lines and impeller weighs about 30 pounds, probably 8" diameter, pump castings probably weigh 200 poundsflowing thru 4-5" piping...I really doubt if a 3" water pump could pull even 5 hp at 7k rpm...and electrical loading will still pull a bit of alternator hp...
if the pulleys gain a tenth in the quarter thats great, but a tenth flat out for 13 seconds would likely be totally unnoticeable in street driving...aluminum flywheel MIGHT make throttle more 'crisp' feeling, but with drive-by-wire, think that might even be hard to tell...60 foot times would be better way to judge street 'feel' and I doubt pulleys could change hat by more than a couple milliseconds...
best investments for 'feel' in daily driving (and 60 foot time)would be:
1) tune out throttle lag
2) gears: 3.9/4.1 :1 should do it - but will kill highway mpg
3) aluminum flywheel
those combined should really wake up the throttle response even at legal speeds...and would imagine get you into the 12's with a stick.
I've always thought unless you were racing with a/c on max and a dead battery that any gain would not be noticed...if battery is charged and accessories off the only 'feel' you should get would be slightly quicker rpm 'acceleration' (and slightly less shock at dumping clutch).
as far as revving faster, compared to inertia in rotational mass in motor/flywheel, change will be minor...if you want to rev quicker, an aluminum flywheel would be a investment that you might really feel in my opinion...
as to electric water pumps- we run 20 hp 100 psi coolant systems on our machining lines and impeller weighs about 30 pounds, probably 8" diameter, pump castings probably weigh 200 poundsflowing thru 4-5" piping...I really doubt if a 3" water pump could pull even 5 hp at 7k rpm...and electrical loading will still pull a bit of alternator hp...
if the pulleys gain a tenth in the quarter thats great, but a tenth flat out for 13 seconds would likely be totally unnoticeable in street driving...aluminum flywheel MIGHT make throttle more 'crisp' feeling, but with drive-by-wire, think that might even be hard to tell...60 foot times would be better way to judge street 'feel' and I doubt pulleys could change hat by more than a couple milliseconds...
best investments for 'feel' in daily driving (and 60 foot time)would be:
1) tune out throttle lag
2) gears: 3.9/4.1 :1 should do it - but will kill highway mpg
3) aluminum flywheel
those combined should really wake up the throttle response even at legal speeds...and would imagine get you into the 12's with a stick.
What pushed me off the fence for ordering a set was comparing ET's of people with pullies to when they didn't have them. The consistent message was that pullies seem to be good for about 1-2 MPH. To me that indicates real world power--not supercharger power gains, but for the money, a worthwhile mod with no downsides.
Now if they would only get here... :bang:
Now if they would only get here... :bang:
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Originally posted by ford4v429@January 7, 2006, 9:17 AM
just opinion/thoughts...
I've always thought unless you were racing with a/c on max and a dead battery that any gain would not be noticed...if battery is charged and accessories off the only 'feel' you should get would be slightly quicker rpm 'acceleration' (and slightly less shock at dumping clutch).
as far as revving faster, compared to inertia in rotational mass in motor/flywheel, change will be minor...if you want to rev quicker, an aluminum flywheel would be a investment that you might really feel in my opinion...
as to electric water pumps- we run 20 hp 100 psi coolant systems on our machining lines and impeller weighs about 30 pounds, probably 8" diameter, pump castings probably weigh 200 poundsflowing thru 4-5" piping...I really doubt if a 3" water pump could pull even 5 hp at 7k rpm...and electrical loading will still pull a bit of alternator hp...
if the pulleys gain a tenth in the quarter thats great, but a tenth flat out for 13 seconds would likely be totally unnoticeable in street driving...aluminum flywheel MIGHT make throttle more 'crisp' feeling, but with drive-by-wire, think that might even be hard to tell...60 foot times would be better way to judge street 'feel' and I doubt pulleys could change hat by more than a couple milliseconds...
best investments for 'feel' in daily driving (and 60 foot time)would be:
1) tune out throttle lag
2) gears: 3.9/4.1 :1 should do it - but will kill highway mpg
3) aluminum flywheel
those combined should really wake up the throttle response even at legal speeds...and would imagine get you into the 12's with a stick.
just opinion/thoughts...
I've always thought unless you were racing with a/c on max and a dead battery that any gain would not be noticed...if battery is charged and accessories off the only 'feel' you should get would be slightly quicker rpm 'acceleration' (and slightly less shock at dumping clutch).
as far as revving faster, compared to inertia in rotational mass in motor/flywheel, change will be minor...if you want to rev quicker, an aluminum flywheel would be a investment that you might really feel in my opinion...
as to electric water pumps- we run 20 hp 100 psi coolant systems on our machining lines and impeller weighs about 30 pounds, probably 8" diameter, pump castings probably weigh 200 poundsflowing thru 4-5" piping...I really doubt if a 3" water pump could pull even 5 hp at 7k rpm...and electrical loading will still pull a bit of alternator hp...
if the pulleys gain a tenth in the quarter thats great, but a tenth flat out for 13 seconds would likely be totally unnoticeable in street driving...aluminum flywheel MIGHT make throttle more 'crisp' feeling, but with drive-by-wire, think that might even be hard to tell...60 foot times would be better way to judge street 'feel' and I doubt pulleys could change hat by more than a couple milliseconds...
best investments for 'feel' in daily driving (and 60 foot time)would be:
1) tune out throttle lag
2) gears: 3.9/4.1 :1 should do it - but will kill highway mpg
3) aluminum flywheel
those combined should really wake up the throttle response even at legal speeds...and would imagine get you into the 12's with a stick.
:scratch: You may be correct in what you are saying but it is simple mods like the pullies and electric water pump lumped together that make a difference. Pullies and water pump in combo are worth 15-18 at the wheels. My math suc#$s but that is somewhere around a 6/7 % increase from stock at the rear wheels. I am running both and I can tell you for sure you can feel that difference on the street. Now add your aluminum fly wheel and gears to this combo plus a tune ,C&L intake, and Borla catback exhaust and BINGO!! You have a very fun street machine. IMO it is not what each little mod does for the car it is how the whole package runs.
Scott
Originally posted by 70MACH1OWNER@January 7, 2006, 12:41 PM
:scratch: You may be correct in what you are saying but it is simple mods like the pullies and electric water pump lumped together that make a difference. Pullies and water pump in combo are worth 15-18 at the wheels. My math suc#$s but that is somewhere around a 6/7 % increase from stock at the rear wheels. I am running both and I can tell you for sure you can feel that difference on the street. Now add your aluminum fly wheel and gears to this combo plus a tune ,C&L intake, and Borla catback exhaust and BINGO!! You have a very fun street machine. IMO it is not what each little mod does for the car it is how the whole package runs.
Scott
:scratch: You may be correct in what you are saying but it is simple mods like the pullies and electric water pump lumped together that make a difference. Pullies and water pump in combo are worth 15-18 at the wheels. My math suc#$s but that is somewhere around a 6/7 % increase from stock at the rear wheels. I am running both and I can tell you for sure you can feel that difference on the street. Now add your aluminum fly wheel and gears to this combo plus a tune ,C&L intake, and Borla catback exhaust and BINGO!! You have a very fun street machine. IMO it is not what each little mod does for the car it is how the whole package runs.
Scott
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