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Originally posted by mikem@October 17, 2005, 7:09 PM
Yes that does make sense.Well good luck and make sure you label and organize all your parts.as time goes buy you might forget how things go together.
Yes that does make sense.Well good luck and make sure you label and organize all your parts.as time goes buy you might forget how things go together.
Boss 330 (Al) is a super nice guy. He had about 10 motors or so on stands in the works. VERY knowledgeable. I learned so much today. He spent the time to answer any question I had...which was a lot. I met him in Kentucky at the NMRA finals. He was delivering 2 motors to some racer's. Come to find out he's about an hour North of me. A buddy of mine turned me onto Al. My buddy is getting some sick 5.4L 4V built by Al right now as well. Al does put some trick motors together.
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I'm going to have a few parts for sale when it's all said and done!
Steeda IRMC deletes
Steeda underdrive pullies
Stainless Works 1 3/4" longtube headers
Steeda motor mounts
PM if interested!
Steeda IRMC deletes
Steeda underdrive pullies
Stainless Works 1 3/4" longtube headers
Steeda motor mounts
PM if interested!
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David,
Tell me what I'm seeing in post 11? Is the top of that piston pitted? or is that just something that got on the pistons while tearing it down?
Sorry to see all that damage....But knowing you it will be better then ever shortly. keep us posted on your progress.
Tell me what I'm seeing in post 11? Is the top of that piston pitted? or is that just something that got on the pistons while tearing it down?
Sorry to see all that damage....But knowing you it will be better then ever shortly. keep us posted on your progress.
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Originally posted by FordRacing@October 17, 2005, 8:17 PM
David,
Tell me what I'm seeing in post 11? Is the top of that piston pitted? or is that just something that got on the pistons while tearing it down?
Sorry to see all that damage....But knowing you it will be better then ever shortly. keep us posted on your progress.
David,
Tell me what I'm seeing in post 11? Is the top of that piston pitted? or is that just something that got on the pistons while tearing it down?
Sorry to see all that damage....But knowing you it will be better then ever shortly. keep us posted on your progress.
#28
What if the ground strap of 8 plugs look to be melted off?
What should the compression read when performing that compression test?
I was wondering who would be the first of these boards to pull and build up an engine. I think you will be beating us into the water box pretty soon.
How much money do you anticipate going into this new motor? Also, when you refer to Windsor, are you refering to the 351 (5.8l) iron platform and ditching the 281 3v?
From your experience now what do you suggest to the rest of us? Stay away from a true slick to avoid breaking so many parts...Build up chassis support...what?
I think we would like some details...
-Dan
What should the compression read when performing that compression test?
I was wondering who would be the first of these boards to pull and build up an engine. I think you will be beating us into the water box pretty soon.
How much money do you anticipate going into this new motor? Also, when you refer to Windsor, are you refering to the 351 (5.8l) iron platform and ditching the 281 3v?
From your experience now what do you suggest to the rest of us? Stay away from a true slick to avoid breaking so many parts...Build up chassis support...what?
I think we would like some details...
-Dan
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It's a 4.6 Windsor-truck block. Everything bolts up the same.
Have either a anti-roll bar or sway bar on the car if you go to a true slick.
Have either a anti-roll bar or sway bar on the car if you go to a true slick.
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Wow!! So sorry to see your problems. Your photo are terrific. We have all been wondering what the motor looks like inside. Very interesting. I knew that top ring was close but actually seeing it is another matter. I see a lot of $$ here. If I ever have to go through all this I would look at a Crammer for sure but then I would have auto problems. You are fortunate to hook up with that motor builder in BG. It sure pays to network and talk to all you can. Did he have a display there at BG? I wanted to go but health was not doing too well at that time. Sorry I did not.
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Al Pappito is the builder and no, he didn't have a display. He was referred to me from a buddy in Ohio. Gave me his number and hooked up with him in BG. Funny thing is that his shop is about an hour North of me. So, once I learned of him, I started poking around. I haven't heard one single negative thing about him. Everyone has had the utmost compliments for him!
I took my heads and parts to his shop. I spent about 3 hrs there just soaking up info. Super knowledgeable! It's been awhile since someone has taken the time to go into depth on any subject I mention. Very nice guy and very easy going!
I took my heads and parts to his shop. I spent about 3 hrs there just soaking up info. Super knowledgeable! It's been awhile since someone has taken the time to go into depth on any subject I mention. Very nice guy and very easy going!
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Originally posted by 169stang@October 21, 2005, 10:20 PM
Al Pappito is the builder and no, he didn't have a display. He was referred to me from a buddy in Ohio. Gave me his number and hooked up with him in BG. Funny thing is that his shop is about an hour North of me. So, once I learned of him, I started poking around. I haven't heard one single negative thing about him. Everyone has had the utmost compliments for him!
I took my heads and parts to his shop. I spent about 3 hrs there just soaking up info. Super knowledgeable! It's been awhile since someone has taken the time to go into depth on any subject I mention. Very nice guy and very easy going!
Al Pappito is the builder and no, he didn't have a display. He was referred to me from a buddy in Ohio. Gave me his number and hooked up with him in BG. Funny thing is that his shop is about an hour North of me. So, once I learned of him, I started poking around. I haven't heard one single negative thing about him. Everyone has had the utmost compliments for him!
I took my heads and parts to his shop. I spent about 3 hrs there just soaking up info. Super knowledgeable! It's been awhile since someone has taken the time to go into depth on any subject I mention. Very nice guy and very easy going!
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I will get it tuned by a local fella after the motor gets back in. I'm still unsure of the tuner I'll use in Dec.
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Originally posted by 169stang@October 17, 2005, 6:33 PM
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What I learned today.
4. If you burn off the tip of your spark plug, you should have a leak down and compression check. Very good chances that the little piece that broke off will work it's way into the exhaust valve or burn a trail and grenade the motor. Not immediately, but eventually.
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What I learned today.
4. If you burn off the tip of your spark plug, you should have a leak down and compression check. Very good chances that the little piece that broke off will work it's way into the exhaust valve or burn a trail and grenade the motor. Not immediately, but eventually.
Glad you're taking this thing in stride!
#37
Sorry if I am missing it here, but why do you THINK it happened? There are lots of cracks in that block, and lot of them seem to be at exterior locations [connection to the trans, etc.]... So the bellhousing broke at the same time as all the rest of this?
Why? Insufficient fuel and a chain-reaction from there? Or more than one thing at once?
Thanks man...
Mike E
Why? Insufficient fuel and a chain-reaction from there? Or more than one thing at once?
Thanks man...
Mike E
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I've talked with quite a few people about it. No one had a solid answer. After continueing my quest to understand EXACTLY what caused the cracks and after realizing that the output shaft on the tranny was bent due to the driveshaft....The bent output shaft caused a vibration and the vibration continued to get worse over the course of a week. So, the best educated guess is either the cracks were caused by the driveshaft giving way initially or the vibration caused the cracks thru the course of the week. fatigue cracks. So, I installed the Carbon fiber driveshaft and the vibration was still there. I had the gears re-set and the vibration was still there. And when I say vibration, I don't mean like a tire has lost its shape or belt. I mean something you feel in you azz.
NO internal damage at all, just cracks. The other thing is that you can't just replace the bellhousing. it's apart of the tranny casing. Darnit...so I have to put in a better tranny.
NO internal damage at all, just cracks. The other thing is that you can't just replace the bellhousing. it's apart of the tranny casing. Darnit...so I have to put in a better tranny.
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