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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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That was RWHP correct?
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by traffic142
That was RWHP correct?
Yep. There are some other minor mods, JLT CAI, UDPs, etc.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 05:30 PM
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Yep. There are some other minor mods, JLT CAI, UDPs, etc.

Really. That's pretty **** impressive even with heads. Got a dyno sheet??

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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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I watching this thread with great curiosity!!!! Hopefully this will be a mod I will be doing in the future.
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 70MACH1OWNER
Really. That's pretty **** impressive even with heads. Got a dyno sheet??
lol, and he never returns...
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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As far as N/A goes, you're not going to see well above 350 without heads. With heads and all those mods, it's not that difficult, but you're going to be into decent S/C territory pricewise by that point spending on heads, SPR cams, intake, tuner, long tubes, driveshaft, UDP, cmcv. Add it all up and it's not cheap. But I don't get why people think it's impossible. People dyno around 350 with every bolt on minus heads.

EDIT: sorry, didn't realize this was a zombie thread.
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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Just to open a scabbed wound...

Now there's more developments on the cams and tons of new options for intakes that do without the CMDPs.

Also, the stock 2011 5.0 makes 400+ Hp.

Might as well enjoy the "mileage" you get from non-modded NA pre-11 Mustangs!
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dixie_Flatline
As far as N/A goes, you're not going to see well above 350 without heads. With heads and all those mods, it's not that difficult, but you're going to be into decent S/C territory pricewise by that point spending on heads, SPR cams, intake, tuner, long tubes, driveshaft, UDP, cmcv. Add it all up and it's not cheap. But I don't get why people think it's impossible. People dyno around 350 with every bolt on minus heads.

EDIT: sorry, didn't realize this was a zombie thread.
Yup:
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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According that dyno sheet Dixie Flatline pretty much called the RWHP with heads and cams. So now I really really want to see the dyno sheet from AFCOP13 car. If he ever comes back.

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Old May 1, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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Not a zombie thread dude, I read through pages and pages of this website, looooove it.
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Old May 2, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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Dropping off the car this week for a Head / Cam swap so I will post up some numbers by weeks end...
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Old May 3, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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I had cai, 95mm maf housing, tune, lt headers+no cats, udp, stock intake manifold, stock heads.

I just put in frpp hot rod cams, cmcv delete plates, and an electric water pump and gained 26rwhp with the a/f all over. I should be able to get it up to 30rwhp+ once I get the a/f curve flattened out. 351rwhp 344rwtq sae. before the cams i ran a 12.9 at 108 with a 1.7 60' at 2300 feet.

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Old May 3, 2010 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jwgroovin
Yup:
I wonder why your tq is so low? Mine comes in right at 300 when I stomp on it at 2500 rpm and goes up to 340+.

Edit: you have way more top end than me though. My max hp is at 6250ish and right after the line starts dropping down. Yours basically pulls right to 7000+. Sweet.

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Old May 3, 2010 | 01:30 AM
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That's a lot of work for 50 or so HP. F/I can safely add twice that for far less than twice the price. If I can get 400 -425 rwhp in my 05 it wouldn't bother me to lose to a slightly modded 11+ with their ugly butt.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ETNOATS
That's a lot of work for 50 or so HP. F/I can safely add twice that for far less than twice the price. If I can get 400 -425 rwhp in my 05 it wouldn't bother me to lose to a slightly modded 11+ with their ugly butt.
Depends on the person. For me half the enjoyment is doing the work and learning more about my car. Also with your f/i you won't have that sweetass cammed sound.

You are right though. Just slapping on a blower at stock boost levels is the most time and money efficient way to get a big bump in hp.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 2kanchoo
I wonder why your tq is so low? Mine comes in right at 300 when I stomp on it at 2500 rpm and goes up to 340+.

Edit: you have way more top end than me though. My max hp is at 6250ish and right after the line starts dropping down. Yours basically pulls right to 7000+. Sweet.
HP is a function of torque.

He moved his torque band higher in the rpm band. So he lost power down low but replaced it in the upper rpms.

To find hp you use the equation Torque x RPM / 5252

cam profiles including overlap, and timing events as well as the lobe centerline all create different power profiles. still making power at 7000 rpm I'd assume his lobe centerline is narrower than a lot of other grinds.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2kanchoo
I wonder why your tq is so low? Mine comes in right at 300 when I stomp on it at 2500 rpm and goes up to 340+.

Edit: you have way more top end than me though. My max hp is at 6250ish and right after the line starts dropping down. Yours basically pulls right to 7000+. Sweet.
The torque issue is the VCT. Need to change values in the tune...coming soon.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jlmounce
HP is a function of torque.

He moved his torque band higher in the rpm band. So he lost power down low but replaced it in the upper rpms.

To find hp you use the equation Torque x RPM / 5252

cam profiles including overlap, and timing events as well as the lobe centerline all create different power profiles. still making power at 7000 rpm I'd assume his lobe centerline is narrower than a lot of other grinds.
Exactly, although we need to clean up that 4500rpm dip (sct software thingee). I only got two qualifying runs at the track after the initial tune, but it pulled through the traps and kept on going. No dead zones in the power band. Cams helped but the C&L manifold is the new part of the equation. It's definately loaded for the top end...
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Old May 3, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jwgroovin
The torque issue is the VCT. Need to change values in the tune...coming soon.
Ok I was wondering. It just seemed really low. Our bands are almost identical from 5200 to 6300. But from 2500 to 5200 yours is way lower. If you got that bumped up that would make a huge difference.

Yea it sure is top end crazy, good for a track car. Is it an auto or manual? That band would be perfect for riding out 3rd gear through the end.

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