K&N VS stock dyno pull
#1
hey guys,
I ran my car on the dyno monday as most know but wasn't able to all it to cool well enough on my final runs to make good power. I was holding off 10-15 minutes between runs because well all know how these 05 react when they get too hot.
I was able to get a stock VS stock K&N dyno run in. 7rwhp and 5 rwtq in stock form and the a/f ratio was almost exactly the same. I can say without a doubt that the K&N is the safest CAI on the market for the dead stock car without a tune.
I'm heading back this weekend to get some results with my tuning but I do have a tune for the K&N now as I see how it reacts.
Thanks, Doug.
I ran my car on the dyno monday as most know but wasn't able to all it to cool well enough on my final runs to make good power. I was holding off 10-15 minutes between runs because well all know how these 05 react when they get too hot.
I was able to get a stock VS stock K&N dyno run in. 7rwhp and 5 rwtq in stock form and the a/f ratio was almost exactly the same. I can say without a doubt that the K&N is the safest CAI on the market for the dead stock car without a tune.
I'm heading back this weekend to get some results with my tuning but I do have a tune for the K&N now as I see how it reacts.
Thanks, Doug.
#3
Now I just want to clarify, because I am very new to the modding, so please be gentle....
Doug said that the K&N is by far the safest and that the a/f ratio was nearly identical, this means that, despite the wealth of information to the contrary, the K&N CAI makes good on its claim that no tune is necessary?
I was ready to purchase one after hearing you didn't need a tune (I want a tune eventually, but $ restricts me to one at a time), but then backed off after more than one thread said it was leaning out the a/f ratio.
Before I rush out and buy one, I just want to make sure that I'm getting things right.
Thanks in advance.
Doug said that the K&N is by far the safest and that the a/f ratio was nearly identical, this means that, despite the wealth of information to the contrary, the K&N CAI makes good on its claim that no tune is necessary?
I was ready to purchase one after hearing you didn't need a tune (I want a tune eventually, but $ restricts me to one at a time), but then backed off after more than one thread said it was leaning out the a/f ratio.
Before I rush out and buy one, I just want to make sure that I'm getting things right.
Thanks in advance.
#4
I know that there are people out there that just want to toss in only about $300 and no more. With that said I beleive the K&N filter is a good choice but you must understand that by just ditching the stock airbox and replacing it with a conical filter would probably net the same gain. Its worth a shot for some.
If you are willing to spend a bit more money you might as well get a good kit that requires a tune.
Also, those handheld tuners are nice to have anyways; datalogging of all engine sensors, code reading and of course the programming, its worth the $350.
-Dan
If you are willing to spend a bit more money you might as well get a good kit that requires a tune.
Also, those handheld tuners are nice to have anyways; datalogging of all engine sensors, code reading and of course the programming, its worth the $350.
-Dan
#11
Originally posted by redzr@November 13, 2005, 8:25 PM
Where is the least expensive place to buy the K&N kit?
Thanks,
Dan
Where is the least expensive place to buy the K&N kit?
Thanks,
Dan
#12
I am running k&n with your tune currently and love the setup, be interested to see your dyno results.
If during the dyno you make some mods to your tune for the better be sure to let us current k&n tune owners know
If during the dyno you make some mods to your tune for the better be sure to let us current k&n tune owners know
#13
Not bad. Seeing as how the A/F stayed the same it must be a very small difference from stock. IMO go with a CAI that requires a tune and get 20hp or so instead of 7. But for people who absoultly don't want a tune, its a good mod.
#16
Originally posted by MaverickMLFD371@November 17, 2005, 7:46 PM
I did a stock pull with all my mods including the K&N intake, i also did a pull with Doug @ BAMACHIPS Torque and Performance Tune, I will post them numbers later on.
I did a stock pull with all my mods including the K&N intake, i also did a pull with Doug @ BAMACHIPS Torque and Performance Tune, I will post them numbers later on.
#17
Here is the dyno sheet from the pull from last week.
The One in the Blue is the run with the K&N Intake, Underdrive Pulleys, Throttle Body Spacer, Flowmaster Axle-Backs dyno'd @ 294.9 RWHP and 318.4 RWTQ.
Moving onto the Red is adding Doug @ BamaChips 93 Octane Torque Tune producing 302 RWP @ 322.5 RWTQ.
Finally in the green uploads BamaChips 93 Octane Performance Tune producing 301.4 RWHP @ 323.1 RWTQ.
Such a big difference the tuner makes, but I think this is the best that can be made out of the K&N Intake, which is why it does not require tuning, cause you get the best power out of it without one.
The One in the Blue is the run with the K&N Intake, Underdrive Pulleys, Throttle Body Spacer, Flowmaster Axle-Backs dyno'd @ 294.9 RWHP and 318.4 RWTQ.
Moving onto the Red is adding Doug @ BamaChips 93 Octane Torque Tune producing 302 RWP @ 322.5 RWTQ.
Finally in the green uploads BamaChips 93 Octane Performance Tune producing 301.4 RWHP @ 323.1 RWTQ.
Such a big difference the tuner makes, but I think this is the best that can be made out of the K&N Intake, which is why it does not require tuning, cause you get the best power out of it without one.
#18
Originally posted by bpmurr@November 18, 2005, 10:55 AM
I'll be looking forward to seeing these. I think I'm going to go with an intake to hold me over another year until I get a SC.
I'll be looking forward to seeing these. I think I'm going to go with an intake to hold me over another year until I get a SC.
Thanks for posting those numbers Maverick. On the stock pull did you still have the h/c trap in? Just wondering. I need to hit a dyno and see just how well this k&n is doing on the stock tune... but looks to be doing great.
Thanks!
#19
Originally posted by gkaufman@November 20, 2005, 9:34 PM
Thanks for posting those numbers Maverick. On the stock pull did you still have the h/c trap in? Just wondering. I need to hit a dyno and see just how well this k&n is doing on the stock tune... but looks to be doing great.
Thanks!
Thanks for posting those numbers Maverick. On the stock pull did you still have the h/c trap in? Just wondering. I need to hit a dyno and see just how well this k&n is doing on the stock tune... but looks to be doing great.
Thanks!
No Hydrocarbon trap was in the Intake!
#20
Originally posted by Doug904@November 9, 2005, 9:23 PM
I'm heading back this weekend to get some results with my tuning but I do have a tune for the K&N now as I see how it reacts.
Thanks, Doug.
I'm heading back this weekend to get some results with my tuning but I do have a tune for the K&N now as I see how it reacts.
Thanks, Doug.