Just dynoed my car today..do I have a lemon?
As everyone else has also mentioned it seems that this person does not have much experience using a dyno.
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Dyno in a 1:1 trans gear ratio (4th gear for 3650) or don't bother posting the dyno results.
Also if you have an automatic, dyno it in the 1:1 trans gear ratio WITH THE TORQUE CONVERTER LOCKED, or don't bother posting the dyno results. The dyno operator doesn't understand or know how to do the latter, find another place.
Also if you have an automatic, dyno it in the 1:1 trans gear ratio WITH THE TORQUE CONVERTER LOCKED, or don't bother posting the dyno results. The dyno operator doesn't understand or know how to do the latter, find another place.
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especially when they don't have A/F monitoring, which is a basic necessity
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I did a 50 foot burnout out of the dealer parking lot and have been driving it like that ever since. At 650 miles you are way past any possible break in period. The guy at the dyno shop you went to is a moron, go somewhere else
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tifo: I would say take the car somewhere else for a Dyno run and if the tuner is that big of an idiot get your tune looked at as well. Those numbers are low but thier gear could be off and there are adjustments that can be made for atmospherics, the guy might of screwed up the readings.
As an aside I got my car dyno tuned a year after I had my baseline run and lost 2 rwhp on the same dyno. My tuner blamed it on the E10 gas we are running here.
As far as not reving the car, come on man, it's a Stang!!! I've always been told to drive it like you are gonna drive it for the rest of it's life. I took my 03 Cobra to the track the first night I got it and hit the Rev limiter twice and the car still hit 500rwhp without a new or ported blower.
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As an aside I got my car dyno tuned a year after I had my baseline run and lost 2 rwhp on the same dyno. My tuner blamed it on the E10 gas we are running here.
As far as not reving the car, come on man, it's a Stang!!! I've always been told to drive it like you are gonna drive it for the rest of it's life. I took my 03 Cobra to the track the first night I got it and hit the Rev limiter twice and the car still hit 500rwhp without a new or ported blower.
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At 650 miles you are way past any possible break in period.
The Hemi in my jeep took 2K miles or so to stop burning a tad bit of oil.
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I'm really disappointed after having my car dynoed today. Even though I've only had my car for two weeks and it only has 650 miles on it, I figured I get some baseline runs before my car gets modded next week.
Yes, there are some variables that I'm sure affected my runs, but still, the numbers are shockingly low considering it's a 2007 Mustang GT 5 speed manual. Yes, it's bone stock...
Here's the story:
1. I only have 650miles on my car (bought it on Jan 17th)
2. I told the guys who dynoed my car not to take it past 6000 RPMs (maybe a mistake?)
3. The guy who tested it did so in 3rd gear on the first two runs and on the third and final run he put it in 4th gear. (2nd run was the best, but the numbers are so far from the 1st and 3rd)
4. He didn't use any fans, but it was a cold day and drizzling here in southern california, so I figured the car would have made good HP.
Here are the numbers:
Run1: run conditions: 65.16 F Humidity: 53% SAE: 0.98
Max power=229.40 MaxTorque= 234.48
Run2: run conditions: 65.62 F Humidity 46% SAE: 0.98
Max Power=242.48 Max Torque=245.27
Run3: run conditions: 65.85 F Humidity: 47% SAE: 0.98
Max Power=221.45 Max Torque=219.03
What the hell! I know it's not broken in yet...is this car going to gain 25 HP when it loosens up? Do I have a lemon GT?
~Ray
Yes, there are some variables that I'm sure affected my runs, but still, the numbers are shockingly low considering it's a 2007 Mustang GT 5 speed manual. Yes, it's bone stock...
Here's the story:
1. I only have 650miles on my car (bought it on Jan 17th)
2. I told the guys who dynoed my car not to take it past 6000 RPMs (maybe a mistake?)
3. The guy who tested it did so in 3rd gear on the first two runs and on the third and final run he put it in 4th gear. (2nd run was the best, but the numbers are so far from the 1st and 3rd)
4. He didn't use any fans, but it was a cold day and drizzling here in southern california, so I figured the car would have made good HP.
Here are the numbers:
Run1: run conditions: 65.16 F Humidity: 53% SAE: 0.98
Max power=229.40 MaxTorque= 234.48
Run2: run conditions: 65.62 F Humidity 46% SAE: 0.98
Max Power=242.48 Max Torque=245.27
Run3: run conditions: 65.85 F Humidity: 47% SAE: 0.98
Max Power=221.45 Max Torque=219.03
What the hell! I know it's not broken in yet...is this car going to gain 25 HP when it loosens up? Do I have a lemon GT?
~Ray
The thing laid down like 250rwhp or something like that on the Mustang Dyno. The dyno operator asked the owner if he'd ever driven the car aggresively or taken it to redline in any gear. The answer was, "No". So the dyno operator got back in and took it to redline a few times and the thing laid down 280rwhp
Take the car out and beat on it - you're not going to hurt it. It needs to be broken in the way you want it to run. If by some slim chance it blows up, at least it's under warranty. My car saw redline at least a dozen times the morning after I picked it up and 32K miles later she's still going strong as ever.
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Todays cars have such tight tolerances and are much more advanced than the old days. A breakin period is almost non existent. Granted you want to let the car warm up before you beat on it as all parts heat at different rates (expand etc)...
Take your car to another place in a month or so, dont worry about the numbers and dont listen to the people that say "dont post the results if you dont or didnt do such and such".. thats what the forum is for, to get advice and help which you posted for...
Take your car to another place in a month or so, dont worry about the numbers and dont listen to the people that say "dont post the results if you dont or didnt do such and such".. thats what the forum is for, to get advice and help which you posted for...
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Todays cars have such tight tolerances and are much more advanced than the old days. A breakin period is almost non existent. Granted you want to let the car warm up before you beat on it as all parts heat at different rates (expand etc)...
Take your car to another place in a month or so, dont worry about the numbers and dont listen to the people that say "dont post the results if you dont or didnt do such and such".. thats what the forum is for, to get advice and help which you posted for...
Take your car to another place in a month or so, dont worry about the numbers and dont listen to the people that say "dont post the results if you dont or didnt do such and such".. thats what the forum is for, to get advice and help which you posted for...
When ever I take someone for a ride, and they want to see "what she'll do", I definitely let it get warm before winding out 1st, 2nd and 3rd on our little 2-lane/40MPH-zone road 
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06GTwJuice: I didn't mean to offend anyone with my comments. I've seen some wild numbers and claims made by various people, and usually the reason is because the dyno operator was doofus and ran the car in 2nd gear or something.
I didn't mean to offend anyone with my comments. I've seen some wild numbers and claims made by various people, and usually the reason is because the dyno operator was doofus and ran the car in 2nd gear or something.
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I know..
it's text, black and white.. no emotion behind it.
I just didnt want him being discouraged from asking for advice / help ..
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If the pistons had that large of a gap that they needed to seat properly over the first 1000 miles, she'd be smoking like a chimney for the 1000 miles of breakin... like my old chevelle after a rebuild..
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Todays cars have such tight tolerances and are much more advanced than the old days. A breakin period is almost non existent. Granted you want to let the car warm up before you beat on it as all parts heat at different rates (expand etc)...
Take your car to another place in a month or so, dont worry about the numbers and dont listen to the people that say "dont post the results if you dont or didnt do such and such".. thats what the forum is for, to get advice and help which you posted for...
Take your car to another place in a month or so, dont worry about the numbers and dont listen to the people that say "dont post the results if you dont or didnt do such and such".. thats what the forum is for, to get advice and help which you posted for...
I'm actually going to take it to Swanson Performance http://www.swansonperformance.com/ to get it dynoed again (thanks for the suggestion Bill). I couldn't sleep well last night because I felt like I wasted 100 bucks and the guys who dynoed my car didn't do it right. I've had my CRX dynoed and there was only a few horsepower difference between each run. These guys had a 20 HP difference and when I called last night to complain to the owner, a worker who said the owner had gone home, mentioned to me they only had the dyno less than six months. I wish I had known that before...
Either way, I need to know what my stock baseline runs are because the equipment mentioned in my signature is going on next week. Thats for all the help guys.
~Ray
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I'm taking some advice here. The hammer is going to drop and I'm going to stop babying the car.
~Ray
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I was saying break it in hard cause if you go to soft the engine will be broken in wrong quickly and once its broken in wrong not much you can do to fix it.