How to make 400hp N/A
3rd Times A Charm
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You will need a tune with this!
You may want to check your emissions laws to see if Cams are ok in TX. I know I'd never pass here in CA, so I got blown instead.
Metroplex is suffering from a severe case of ricer math. Parts work together. Some parts make the effects of other parts less beneficial. If part 1 is advertised as making 20hp over stock and part 2 is advertised as making 10hp over stock, using part 1 and 2 together does NOT necessarily add 30hp over stock.
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I think 380 is possible to the rear with the following:
Intake and tuner - $600
CMDP's - $200
Heads - $1800
Fast intake - unknown
Stage 3 cams with springs, etc. - 1000
UDP's - 200
THrottle body - 250
Mufflers - 300
X-pipe and Long tubes - 900 to 1500
and a long time on the dyno to tune it in perfectly.
so far your at $5250 without dyno time (no intake cost associated yet, and took the LOW for the x-pipe and header combo. i would guesstimate $6250 with the nice kooks xpipe and header combo and $500 for the intake)
So 6k into it and you might be able to hit the 370-380 rwhp (a very streched maybe). You will lose some low end power with the cams and intake.
so my question is, why not a turbo or s/c for the same cost? Easier to install (hard to belive but true), possible cheaper, and its realtively easy to sell a mustang with a S/C than one that is modded to hell (also much easier to take back to stock if selling or warranty work
).
Intake and tuner - $600
CMDP's - $200
Heads - $1800
Fast intake - unknown
Stage 3 cams with springs, etc. - 1000
UDP's - 200
THrottle body - 250
Mufflers - 300
X-pipe and Long tubes - 900 to 1500
and a long time on the dyno to tune it in perfectly.
so far your at $5250 without dyno time (no intake cost associated yet, and took the LOW for the x-pipe and header combo. i would guesstimate $6250 with the nice kooks xpipe and header combo and $500 for the intake)
So 6k into it and you might be able to hit the 370-380 rwhp (a very streched maybe). You will lose some low end power with the cams and intake.
so my question is, why not a turbo or s/c for the same cost? Easier to install (hard to belive but true), possible cheaper, and its realtively easy to sell a mustang with a S/C than one that is modded to hell (also much easier to take back to stock if selling or warranty work
).
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Joined: January 12, 2006
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From: Houston, Texas
Here is my actual mod list:
intake-600
headers-494.69
4:10 gears-209.95
water pump w/ relay kit-334.99
cams-1000
cmd plates-95.00
udp's-168.95
strut tower brace=179.95
Total= $3083.53
The total of my mods is a little over half of your estimate Dirty Sanchez.(Luckily for me,only 2 of these mods have shipping costs, but I also have to deal with install costs for the Cams,Headers and Gears probably). This is what I think will get me to 340rwhp. Also,if I look a little harder for some of these parts,I might be able to find a better deal like on the headers or gears,and maybe cmd's.Well, what do you know,I just saved $242.34 on Gears,CMD's & Headers by looking for better prices.
intake-600
headers-494.69
4:10 gears-209.95
water pump w/ relay kit-334.99
cams-1000
cmd plates-95.00
udp's-168.95
strut tower brace=179.95
Total= $3083.53
The total of my mods is a little over half of your estimate Dirty Sanchez.(Luckily for me,only 2 of these mods have shipping costs, but I also have to deal with install costs for the Cams,Headers and Gears probably). This is what I think will get me to 340rwhp. Also,if I look a little harder for some of these parts,I might be able to find a better deal like on the headers or gears,and maybe cmd's.Well, what do you know,I just saved $242.34 on Gears,CMD's & Headers by looking for better prices.
Shelby GT350 Member
Joined: April 29, 2005
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I'll save you a little on your CMDs:
http://www.pmpparts.com/index.php?ma...products_id=24
$95 and free shipping.
Also, great price on the headers. Are those shorties? You know the biggest gains come from LTs.
http://www.pmpparts.com/index.php?ma...products_id=24
$95 and free shipping.
Also, great price on the headers. Are those shorties? You know the biggest gains come from LTs.
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From: Houston, Texas
They are Longtube Hooker Supercomp Headers! Here is the link:Hooker Headers 6233HKR Super Comp Header|Performance Parts performanceparts.com
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From: South Georgia
Both of these places have the cheapest price for FRPP CMCV delete plates, $89.95.
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000016a
http://www.suttonhp.com/store/item.a...ARTMENT_ID=124
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000016a
http://www.suttonhp.com/store/item.a...ARTMENT_ID=124
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From: South Georgia
My opinion...
Camshafts, headers, mid-pipe, exhaust, oil pan, oil cooler, underdrive pulleys, water pump pulley, CMCV delete plates, throttle body, throttle body spacer, intake, intake manifold, lightweight flywheel, spark plugs, fuel injectors, coil packs, coil-on-plug connectors, low-temp thermostat, and finally probably the most essential thing: tuning.
You have a ton of options though, you could do N/A first and see how far you get. Later, you could supercharger it, or turbocharge it. (and you'll be making probably somewhere around 450 WHP) Or you could do a supercharger or turbocharger and then maybe do bolt-ons.
I have to say that it would probably be best to just put a FRPP, Roush, or Saleen supercharger on it and call it a day. You'll be making the power you want, you'll have a warranty, and it will have only taken a couple of parts to do it. Plus, you gotta love that S/C whine.
Camshafts, headers, mid-pipe, exhaust, oil pan, oil cooler, underdrive pulleys, water pump pulley, CMCV delete plates, throttle body, throttle body spacer, intake, intake manifold, lightweight flywheel, spark plugs, fuel injectors, coil packs, coil-on-plug connectors, low-temp thermostat, and finally probably the most essential thing: tuning.
You have a ton of options though, you could do N/A first and see how far you get. Later, you could supercharger it, or turbocharge it. (and you'll be making probably somewhere around 450 WHP) Or you could do a supercharger or turbocharger and then maybe do bolt-ons.
I have to say that it would probably be best to just put a FRPP, Roush, or Saleen supercharger on it and call it a day. You'll be making the power you want, you'll have a warranty, and it will have only taken a couple of parts to do it. Plus, you gotta love that S/C whine.
Bullitt Member
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I think 380 is possible to the rear with the following:
Intake and tuner - $600
CMDP's - $200
Heads - $1800
Fast intake - unknown
Stage 3 cams with springs, etc. - 1000
UDP's - 200
THrottle body - 250
Mufflers - 300
X-pipe and Long tubes - 900 to 1500
and a long time on the dyno to tune it in perfectly.
so far your at $5250 without dyno time (no intake cost associated yet, and took the LOW for the x-pipe and header combo. i would guesstimate $6250 with the nice kooks xpipe and header combo and $500 for the intake)
So 6k into it and you might be able to hit the 370-380 rwhp (a very streched maybe). You will lose some low end power with the cams and intake.
so my question is, why not a turbo or s/c for the same cost? Easier to install (hard to belive but true), possible cheaper, and its realtively easy to sell a mustang with a S/C than one that is modded to hell (also much easier to take back to stock if selling or warranty work).
Intake and tuner - $600
CMDP's - $200
Heads - $1800
Fast intake - unknown
Stage 3 cams with springs, etc. - 1000
UDP's - 200
THrottle body - 250
Mufflers - 300
X-pipe and Long tubes - 900 to 1500
and a long time on the dyno to tune it in perfectly.
so far your at $5250 without dyno time (no intake cost associated yet, and took the LOW for the x-pipe and header combo. i would guesstimate $6250 with the nice kooks xpipe and header combo and $500 for the intake)
So 6k into it and you might be able to hit the 370-380 rwhp (a very streched maybe). You will lose some low end power with the cams and intake.
so my question is, why not a turbo or s/c for the same cost? Easier to install (hard to belive but true), possible cheaper, and its realtively easy to sell a mustang with a S/C than one that is modded to hell (also much easier to take back to stock if selling or warranty work
).
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From: Houston, Texas
What do you mean by who needs the pros? I rather have a professional install something that's pretty hard to install(a.k.a Cams,Gears,Headers,CMD's,Electric Water Pump,& Pullies) than risk messing up or damaging something on my car.
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