SONICBOOST

If these were emissions legal they would be in my car next week

MrClean

For those of us in HoustonNick at Fastlane (up on 1960, just off Jones Rd) is currently testing cams that don't require springs either. I think I'll get them for my car, together with Kooks headers and an Air Raid intake, CMDP's and UDPs. Since I'm at 285 now with just a drop-in K&N and a slightly leaner AFR, the UDP's should be good for 8 rwhp, the headers/intake combo for another 25 rwhp, the CMDP's for another 8 rwhp, and the cams for 20 rwhp, for a total of 346 rwhp...or over 400 flywheel hp N/A.

UDP's $300
Headers/intake $2000
CMDP's $200
Cams $XXX
400 hp NA with a lopey exhaust sound: PRICELESS!

MrClean

I wonder if there'll be issues passing the emissions test in TX?

metroplex

I have a set of Comp XE262H cams in my 4.6 2V V8. They are the "no springs" required OE replacement cams. I can't complain about the quality, but I had to have a set replaced by Comp due to an issue where the cam lobes got chipped during transport at the manufacturing facility (They've fixed the problem with the process).

ufnavy06

I guess lopey is what I want... That car sounds awesome! So they'll be out next month?

ufnavy06

Since I have no idea... is that a good price... what about for the bigger badder one with the springs included? What kind of install would someone be looking at for these?

blkstang06

The cost of the springs and about three times the cost in labor!...Put it this way 70MACH1OWNER is getting these installed by brenspeed he was told 2.5 hours for the NSR cams I checked into The Stage three comp cams with springs they need the car a day and of half!..

70MACH1OWNER

Your getting old Scottie!!! I think that A******hers is kicking in. I told you it was 4 hours labor at $70 bucks an hour for install at Brenspeed. But I do agree if you go with the set that requires changing the springs you are looking at big bucks for maybe 10 hp. A total of $280 bucks plus the custom dyno tune of $200. Well worth it I think!
Scott

theedge67

So even the NSR cams would need a custom dyno tune? Or are you just doing that as an extra?

blkstang06

Well, if you would quite playing with tom281 on another thread, and pay attention I wouldn't have to try to cover for you.....

70MACH1OWNER

Your such a butthead but I you!!

2006GT500

With full exhaust, the Comp Stage 4's didn't sound anything like that. Now they just need to make some that sound like that for the GT500.

pegasusphototx

Pardon my ignorance, but why would changing cams make a car not pass emissions? I would love to get the FRPP ones posted here, but if I can't pass inspection that would be a show stopper.

-danny

ufnavy06

So like big bucks for 10 more RWHP over the NSR set?

blkstang06

About a grand! you got springs to buy and alot more labor to pay for!

buck

how do these work with a supercharger? If I were to get these cams when they are out and then get a paxton installed what type of hp would I be looking at and would this be doable??

ufnavy06

Yuck....It sounds like if I want cams, to get a set which would work well with a S/C but yet still provide modest power gains and a descent sound.

eromzek

Any indication has to how much these will be? The NSR kit is tempting from Brenspeed @ $644..

bob

Overlap would be the big issue, if the cams caused the engine to pass some of the unburnt cylinder charge into the exhaust it would hurt the emmissons of the car - one of the big reasons why manufacturers have been really working on high flowing cylinderheads is the ability to build power while using milder camshafts. As you shift the powerband higher into the rev range, the cam tends to get more aggressive in terms of duration and overlap so that the engine can breathe easier at higher RPM.

crewcutkid

Now then, huge performance gains won't really be realized with cams in a 3v motor. I spoke with the owner of a tuning shop here in Colorado, and he basically said that a better plan to get more bang for your buck is to install a supercharger. That said, I was looking at these cams more for the sound, not the performance. I really don't need a guh-zillion horsepower in a daily driver- I just want a sound that'll put a smile on my face whenever I start the car up. However, the point about emmissions testing is a good one, and living at high altitude like I do, cams could really screw up the air/fuel ratio in my car. I suspect you guys at sea level would have a much easier time with these...and I envy you.
I'm still salivating over the sound, I think they beat out the comparable Blow-By Racing cams, especially since these are in-house Ford cams.
Not 100% certain if it would be feasible, but I'd still love a set of these, if only for the sound.
-Jim