'02 Mustang GT vs. '68 Camaro Z28
5/30/06, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Knight
A completely stock 60's Boss 302 and Z28 are slower then a completly stock 5.0 mustang...with that being said a 02 GT is a lot faster then a stock 5.0....with that being said a stock 68 Z28 would stand no chance of beating a 02 GT. Even with 4.56 gears it is no match for the new technology.
5/31/06, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rug
Saying a 5.0 will beat a 69 Z proves you dont have a clue. You think everything you read is true? 69Zs also came with dealer installed headers. They put out 280 at the rear wheels, how you think they would lose with headers and 456s just proves you have a bit to learn, i drove an 03 and no way with 260 at the rear wheels could they win. I like the new Stangs but dont think for a min those road tests are worth a thing.
5/31/06, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Knight
Well you are wrong but whatever makes you feel better.
With a 4.56 Posi rear, a 4 speed, and a stock motor, a 69 Z would be quite fast. As fast as, if not faster, than a 96-98 4.6 Stang and certainly faster than a 5.0, but against an 01 the Stang probably would win. Maybe by one car length.
Don't underestimated a 7000rpm solid-lifter small block.
6/1/06, 08:58 AM
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Ok for all the people that know nothing about the old muscle cars but the tales that are told by old people.
A completly stock 60's Z28 will put down less then 200 hp to the wheels.
I know this will upset people but a completely stock 428cid mustang only puts down 230-250rwhp just slightly higher then a stock 99-04 GT.
A completly stock 60's Z28 will put down less then 200 hp to the wheels.
I know this will upset people but a completely stock 428cid mustang only puts down 230-250rwhp just slightly higher then a stock 99-04 GT.
6/1/06, 09:13 AM
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Look at this page here:
http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclec...istory-1.shtml
Scroll all the way to the bottom and look at the factory performance numbers on a 69 Z28:
(Z-28) 302/290bhp: 0-60 in 7.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 15.12 sec @ 94.8mph
And remember, there is a big variation between the old Gross hp rating and the net ratings. Some engines lost over 100 hp with the conversion
http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclec...istory-1.shtml
Scroll all the way to the bottom and look at the factory performance numbers on a 69 Z28:
(Z-28) 302/290bhp: 0-60 in 7.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 15.12 sec @ 94.8mph
And remember, there is a big variation between the old Gross hp rating and the net ratings. Some engines lost over 100 hp with the conversion
6/1/06, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Every_Mn
Z28s did make some pretty mean power, but didn't have headers. Heck, they parely had a way for the exhaust to escape. I think they had 2" crush-bent tubing.
With a 4.56 Posi rear, a 4 speed, and a stock motor, a 69 Z would be quite fast. As fast as, if not faster, than a 96-98 4.6 Stang and certainly faster than a 5.0, but against an 01 the Stang probably would win. Maybe by one car length.
Don't underestimated a 7000rpm solid-lifter small block.
With a 4.56 Posi rear, a 4 speed, and a stock motor, a 69 Z would be quite fast. As fast as, if not faster, than a 96-98 4.6 Stang and certainly faster than a 5.0, but against an 01 the Stang probably would win. Maybe by one car length.
Don't underestimated a 7000rpm solid-lifter small block.
6/1/06, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rug
http://www.holisticpage.com/camaro/camaros/302.htm. And with FACTORY headers+456s mine ran 0 to 60 in 5.1. 200 RWH???
I tried to find a stock dyno on the web but can't find one but i found this one.
here is a pretty modified Z28 and it only did 300rwhp.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...slip-5610.html
6/1/06, 06:26 PM
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Look Alan, youre wrong. I think its time to cut your losses. You have 3 posts here and none of them are making you look too smart. There is no way a 69 Z28 is gonna beat an 02 GT.
6/1/06, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottyBoy302
Look Alan, youre wrong. I think its time to cut your losses. You have 3 posts here and none of them are making you look too smart. There is no way a 69 Z28 is gonna beat an 02 GT.
6/4/06, 06:30 PM
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I can assure you that anything spelled wrong, like 'gonna' was intentional in the interest of saving time. Second, age doesnt automatically make you smarter, so leave that out of any problems you have with me. Third, most of the guys on here are pretty cool and open to different views, but when you go throwing around stupid ideas, like a stock 69 Z28 being able to beat an 02GT, someone is going to burst your bubble.
Good riddance to bad company.
Good riddance to bad company.
6/11/06, 03:54 PM
#32
Originally Posted by Knight
Ok for all the people that know nothing about the old muscle cars but the tales that are told by old people.
A completly stock 60's Z28 will put down less then 200 hp to the wheels.
I know this will upset people but a completely stock 428cid mustang only puts down 230-250rwhp just slightly higher then a stock 99-04 GT.
A completly stock 60's Z28 will put down less then 200 hp to the wheels.
I know this will upset people but a completely stock 428cid mustang only puts down 230-250rwhp just slightly higher then a stock 99-04 GT.
And I recall seeing a few stock Z28s doing about 225whp on a dyno...
6/11/06, 03:55 PM
#33
Originally Posted by mudshuvel319
Look at this page here:
http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclec...istory-1.shtml
Scroll all the way to the bottom and look at the factory performance numbers on a 69 Z28:
(Z-28) 302/290bhp: 0-60 in 7.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 15.12 sec @ 94.8mph
And remember, there is a big variation between the old Gross hp rating and the net ratings. Some engines lost over 100 hp with the conversion
http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclec...istory-1.shtml
Scroll all the way to the bottom and look at the factory performance numbers on a 69 Z28:
(Z-28) 302/290bhp: 0-60 in 7.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 15.12 sec @ 94.8mph
And remember, there is a big variation between the old Gross hp rating and the net ratings. Some engines lost over 100 hp with the conversion
6/13/06, 05:15 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by Every_Mn
68 Cobra Jets put down more like 275 to the wheels, IME.
And I recall seeing a few stock Z28s doing about 225whp on a dyno...
And I recall seeing a few stock Z28s doing about 225whp on a dyno...
They had a big block shoot out and the 67GT500 and a 68GT500KR both dynoed in the 230's rwhp a Boss 429 and a 1971 429 SC both dynoed just over 240rwhp. a 67 390 BB dynod 190rwhp.
They also tested a 1999 Mustang GT and on the same dyno did 240rwhp
6/13/06, 10:07 PM
#35
Originally Posted by Knight
Well all my dyno info is taken from Mustang Monthly Magazine.
They had a big block shoot out and the 67GT500 and a 68GT500KR both dynoed in the 230's rwhp a Boss 429 and a 1971 429 SC both dynoed just over 240rwhp. a 67 390 BB dynod 190rwhp.
They also tested a 1999 Mustang GT and on the same dyno did 240rwhp
They had a big block shoot out and the 67GT500 and a 68GT500KR both dynoed in the 230's rwhp a Boss 429 and a 1971 429 SC both dynoed just over 240rwhp. a 67 390 BB dynod 190rwhp.
They also tested a 1999 Mustang GT and on the same dyno did 240rwhp
6/15/06, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Every_Mn
Um, I saw that article. The KR did 275 to the wheels... And I've seen others. Get out of here with your crappy new cars, n00b. j/k
6/15/06, 04:30 PM
#37
Originally Posted by Knight
must have been a different article then i read casue in the one i read the car that made the most power was the 1971 429 and it did 244rwhp.
6/15/06, 05:02 PM
#39
Originally Posted by Cheese302
its all just tires guys
put some real tires on the old boss' and z28's, and you would have a quick car. all the old cars did was smoke them up.
put some real tires on the old boss' and z28's, and you would have a quick car. all the old cars did was smoke them up.