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Old 3/18/18, 05:53 PM
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Hi 5.monster, after the radiator change, grill change, oil cooler install, water wetter & DI water, and finally removing the AC condenser I finally conquered my overheating demons lol. My last trackdays we're Mosport and Lime Rock last year, MVP Tracktime cancelled last minute in Dec 2017.

I actually recently traded the Stang and got a 2018 ss 1le Camaro, which I never though I'd say. I'm still learning about the car but being in a 1le track FB group and forum pages starting to change it towards corner carving. I am finding out I'm not having to do much since technology has come a long way since my 2011 Mustang :-) lol
I think it was a good upgrade. As a matter of fact if I had to replace my '14 GT TP right now it would have to be with the 1SS 1LE based on performance.

And you're right, I don't think you need to do much to the car. It comes with sticky tires, magnetic dampers, stiff suspension and huge brakes. I think you're good to go!

How do you like the exhaust burples on of throttle coasting in gear?

Post a pic when you have a sec, and congrats on the new wheels! We'll miss you bud!
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Old 3/18/18, 06:09 PM
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Thanks 5.Monster. Starting to love the exhaust more as I'm able to drive above 4K rpm lol, I'm only now starting to appreciate the exhaust burbling and the ability to select different modes (track exhaust/sports steering/touring suspension). Just completed its 1st break-in motor and rear lsd/diff oil changes. Will do transmission oil at 1500 miles. Thanks again will definitely miss the Stang community. Will post pics when I figure out my phone lol
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Looking sharp! Best of luck with the new car, and may the driver mod be strong with you!

P.S. I would love to see what your thoughts are on the LT motor vs Coyote after some time and some track usage.
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That SS 1LE is so fantastic for the money. What a great track car. Enjoy.
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Old 4/7/18, 10:07 AM
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. . . I actually recently traded the Stang and got a 2018 ss 1le Camaro, . . . .
traitor!

JK, someday when I grow up I'd like to have a Z06 Corvette . . .

back to tires: I've been dragging this out too long, pretty much decided to to with the Michelin PSS in 274/40-19. Local tire shop quoted them a just a few dollars more than Tire Rack, after figuring in installation and local sales tax.

I'm thinking they will be better than my S04's on the track and still practical on the street, and I don't have to worry about them cracking in storage through the winter. The slightly taller profile will be better for the lousy roads around here and give me slightly taller effective gearing, which I think will be a good thing for both street and track. I found that there are no Extreme Performance tires available in 275/40-19.
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If you want to go to an extreme performance class tire you would have to go to a 275 35 19 or a 285 35 19. One is slightly taller than the stock Brembo/track pack size of 255 45 19. I have 3:55 gears in mine and noticed about a 250 rpm decrease at highway speeds when I moved from the 255 40 19's up to the 275 40 19's. The 275 40 19's do ride a little softer on the street than the 255's did.
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PSS is top of max perf summer category, I think they will serve you well. Good choice.

I expect my Ventus RS-3 to be done after this season, and then the hunt for next tire will be on.
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PSS is top of max perf summer category, I think they will serve you well. Good choice.

I expect my Ventus RS-3 to be done after this season, and then the hunt for next tire will be on.
I think someone is buying my wheels soon. If he does you're welcome to buy my zero trackdays new Hankook RS4s 285/35-18 :-)
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If you want to go to an extreme performance class tire you would have to go to a 275 35 19 or a 285 35 19. . . . .
I like the idea of 285 tread width, but it is a bit too wide for my 9.5" wheels

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I think someone is buying my wheels soon. If he does you're welcome to buy my zero trackdays new Hankook RS4s 285/35-18 :-)
That sounds good, but distance and diameter will be a issues! (I have 19's)

I have been hemming and hawing about buying some lightweight 18" wheels for years, but decided my 2018 fun car budget needs to go elsewhere (unless I found a deal where I could get wheels and tires for the price of tires!)

I need to do control arms front and rear, and was also thinking about Bilsteins, so that will absorb my full budget and then some . . . and that belongs in the other thread . . .

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Bert, call Luke Pavilk at the Tire Rack ( ext. #4362 ) about your concern for running a 285 on 9.5 inch rims. I know a lot of folks doing that, but do not listen to me , chat with a guy that our Company ( and a lot of track rats and autocrossers ) have listened to for 20+ years. He is always up on the new stuff and will tell you what works for your application. He is an avid track rat/autocrosser himself , so he will shoot you straight and he really knows his stuff.


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Bert, call Luke Pavilk at the Tire Rack ( ext. #4362 ) about your concern for running a 285 on 9.5 inch rims. . . . . He is an avid track rat/autocrosser himself , so he will shoot you straight and he really knows his stuff.

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Thanks for that tip Bill! I think I will do that . . .

And now you've gone and opened up the whole can of worms again, LOL
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I think someone is buying my wheels soon. If he does you're welcome to buy my zero trackdays new Hankook RS4s 285/35-18 :-)
Thanks man! The only issue is all my wheels are 19, and I want to stay with that size.

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I like the idea of 285 tread width, but it is a bit too wide for my 9.5" wheels
That's what I was thinking too.



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Bert, call Luke Pavilk at the Tire Rack ( ext. #4362 ) about your concern for running a 285 on 9.5 inch rims. I know a lot of folks doing that, but do not listen to me , chat with a guy that our Company ( and a lot of track rats and autocrossers ) have listened to for 20+ years. He is always up on the new stuff and will tell you what works for your application. He is an avid track rat/autocrosser himself , so he will shoot you straight and he really knows his stuff.


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Interesting, so there isn't too much sidewall deflection for road course use running 285s on a rim this narrow?

P.S. Tire rack has 285/35 RE71's for $285. And the N Fera n 275/35 was on sale for $125, but looks like it may be out of stock!

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[QUOTE=Bert;7027929]I like the idea of 285 tread width, but it is a bit too wide for my 9.5" wheels

Yeah, a 9.5" wheel seems to be the minimum recommended for the 285 35 19's. You may run into the same issue I am having with the 275 40 19's on 9" wheels. The sidewalls are starting to roll on the track. Although, with a 35 series tire and a little wider wheel in relation to the tread width, it shouldn't be as bad.
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I finally decided not to waffle any longer and bought the 275/40-19 MPSS from Tire Rack, should be here today and mounted by the end of the week. First SCCA track night at my local track is next Tuesday, doubt I will be ready by then . . . still have some other things to sort out, such as that annoying and evasive "service advance track" problem.
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Sweet, I'm curious to see how you like your new Michelins. Good luck at your next event!

Have you cleaned up your wheel speed sensors yet? may want to unplug them and plug them back in as a quick trouble shooting.
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. . . Have you cleaned up your wheel speed sensors yet? may want to unplug them and plug them back in as a quick trouble shooting.
Thanks for the suggestion. Yeah I looked at the sensors back when this first started, they were pretty clean but cleaned them anyway. Not sure if I re-plugged them but not a bad idea. The problem is very intermittent; originally only happened at Thompson Speedway road course, pretty sure it was turn 4 (hairpin) that triggered it though I was watching the track not the dash through that turn so never knew for sure. More recently I had it happen on the street a couple times. I heard the suggestion about the wire hitting the exhaust fairly recently and really need to get under there and look at the whole wire to see if that is the issue, maybe this weekend . . .

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So I got the MPSS 275/40-19's installed and I like them so far. The slightly taller sidewall does seem to provide a little more isolation from road defects like holes and stuff. The roads are horrible here in Massachusetts, especially this time of year.

Right away I had to drive about 60 miles on the highway in a light snow storm! So much for "not to be driven in near freezing conditions or in snow." I made it with no problems and no real issues; but I was a little concerned.
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It looks like winter weather is finally gone, so I bolted on my new track wheels/tires. They are Apex Racing EC-7 (19 x 10) with Nexen NFERA SUR4's (275-35-19). Here is a quick cell phone pic of one next to my Bridgestone S04's (275-40-19) on stock Brembo wheels.


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Looks good! Hope they work out nicely for you. Can you post a pic of those rims when you have a chance?
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