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Old 6/8/07, 11:36 PM
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And Bill I think the FRPP 4.10 war gears are next mod for me. If I have to fight the warden then I'm going big so it may take a few months but when I win it will be good.

I found a good place in Southeast Houston (PSI) that will do it parts and labor for $500.
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Originally Posted by TacoBill

Let me guess.. the Rotorpros drilled and slotted rotors?

May have to resort to the Tequila. That usually works all the time.

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Like this one?

That’s just wrong Bill lol

One more quick test drive tonight with the warden in the car. She was hanging on for dear life lol

It pulls so hard till 6k+, everything a mad man would ever want. This is the best mod.
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Originally Posted by philster2003
Fella's I think I have to get a pair of these and place them on front fenders just ahead of the front wheels, like the retro 65's I really like them. I'll wait a few days to make sure I'm not being impulsive here.
A few days? You'll probably get them.
Post up pics when you get them on.



Originally Posted by philster2003
And Bill I think the FRPP 4.10 war gears are next mod for me. If I have to fight the warden then I'm going big so it may take a few months but when I win it will be good.

I found a good place in Southeast Houston (PSI) that will do it parts and labor for $500.
That be GEARS OF WAR. Named after the Xbox 360 video game. Leo and Chris know all about this game. Attachment 27706

$500 for gears and labor sounds like a good deal. We'll talk later when you get the approval on the exact gear part number you'll need.



Originally Posted by philster2003
It pulls so hard till 6k+, everything a mad man would ever want. This is the best mod.
That about answers it.
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Old 6/8/07, 11:54 PM
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Correction

Gears of War lol

Yes I'll get exact part number info when I ge to the approval stage to make sure my installer is good with the parts I want.

Thanks Bill

OK I'm checking out until tomorrow
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Originally Posted by philster2003
OK I'm checking out until tomorrow
It's only midnight, you lightweight!
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Originally Posted by TacoBill
It's only midnight, you lightweight!
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Originally Posted by TacoBill
It's only midnight, you lightweight!
Yeah... Sleep... It's over-rated! Been awake since 2 and decided I was tired of laying in bed. Figured I get the jump on the forums since I will be working in the plant all day today.
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Sorry that I can't keep up - I'm not ignoring any of your posts. I'm reading them all.

Dave and I are leaving now with the 2 cars headed for Daytona Beach. The car show is right on the speedway's infield. More importantly, though, is the dyno.

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Wish me luck - hopefully the 3rd time's a charm.

Goal #1 = 331 BHP (264.8 RWHP)

Goal #2 = 300 RWHP (375 BHP)
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Originally Posted by 89Trooper
Sorry that I can't keep up - I'm not ignoring any of your posts. I'm reading them all.

Dave and I are leaving now with the 2 cars headed for Daytona Beach. The car show is right on the speedway's infield. More importantly, though, is the dyno.

Attachment 27708

Wish me luck - hopefully the 3rd time's a charm.

Goal #1 = 331 BHP (264.8 RWHP)

Goal #2 = 300 RWHP (375 BHP)
Good luck Tom, wish we could be there with you sounds like a great time. Post up some pics if you get a chance!
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Originally Posted by pville piper
Yeah... Sleep... It's over-rated! Been awake since 2 and decided I was tired of laying in bed. Figured I get the jump on the forums since I will be working in the plant all day today.

That sucks big time John, we want you to play with us today...................
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Originally Posted by TacoBill
It's only midnight, you lightweight!
That was 1AM my time Billster

And where are you now, beauty sleep I suppose?

Up and adam there work to be done pal

I'm going out to the car, jack it up and put a it more dynamat under the new MGW I installed. I think its still to noisy. I can hear engine start up noise and transmission noise and road noise even though I used the dyanmat ad sound barrier supplied by MGW. I'll post up some pics when completed Sargent TacoBill
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Originally Posted by 89Trooper
Wish me luck - hopefully the 3rd time's a charm.

Goal #1 = 331 BHP (264.8 RWHP)

Goal #2 = 300 RWHP (375 BHP)
Have fun today, Tom.

I don't get the dyno goals. Goal 1 is the magical 1 HP per CID. But, goal 2 is just a benchmark figure?
I thought you were using the RWHP/.85 formula? Or was that only for Manual S197's?





Originally Posted by philster2003
Up and adam there work to be done pal

I'm going out to the car, jack it up and put a it more dynamat under the new MGW I installed. I think its still to noisy. I can hear engine start up noise and transmission noise and road noise even though I used the dyanmat ad sound barrier supplied by MGW. I'll post up some pics when completed Sargent TacoBill
I'm up. I see you're already logged on you addict!

You really have to cram the Dynomat under the shifter base until it contacts it on all 4 sides (under the car). Once done, it should quiet things down. If not, just crank up the Shaker with some Linkin Park.
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Hot off the press from Florida!

Just got off the phone with Tom. Dyno numbers for the 89 are in...

314.24 RWHP (393 Crank HP)
333.48 TQ

Tom is ecstatic beyond belief!
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Originally Posted by TacoBill
Just got off the phone with Tom. Dyno numbers for the 89 are in...

314.24 RWHP (393 Crank HP)
333.48 TQ

Tom is ecstatic beyond belief!
Great news Tom
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Originally Posted by TacoBill
Just got off the phone with Tom. Dyno numbers for the 89 are in...

314.24 RWHP (393 Crank HP)
333.48 TQ

Tom is ecstatic beyond belief!
Thats pretty outstanding! Kind of makes your weekend and year all at once Tom
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OK done with the re-work of the sound deadening around the MGW shifter. I probably went overboard but I don't like always having to jack up the car and getting underneath it lol

I got the Dynamat from Carolina Classic Trucks cheap, two packs of 10X10 8 total sheets for $13.88. and it got here in 2 days flat.





Here is what the underside of the shift area looks like now that’s its Dynamatted. Much less noise, MUCH

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Originally Posted by TacoBill
I don't get the dyno goals. Goal 1 is the magical 1 HP per CID. But, goal 2 is just a benchmark figure?
I thought you were using the RWHP/.85 formula? Or was that only for Manual S197's?
For the 87-93 with a T5 manual, it's a 20% drivetrain loss since it's so inefficient.

Goal 1 was the 1 HP to 1 CID, yes. I took 331 BHP and figured out I would need to hit 264.8 RWHP to achieve that goal. (331 x .80 = 264.8)

Goal 2 was the 300 RWHP goal. I took the 300 RWHP and figured out that would equate to 375 BHP. (300 / .80 = 375)

So, I ended up hitting both marks (as Bill already showed ) with 314.24 RWHP, which equals 392.8 BHP. (314.24 / .80 = 392.8) If you figure Torque out the same way (which I can't confirm nor deny), 333.48 at the rear wheels = 416.85 Torque at the flywheel!
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Originally Posted by 89Trooper
For the 87-93 with a T5 manual, it's a 20% drivetrain loss since it's so inefficient.

Goal 1 was the 1 HP to 1 CID, yes. I took 331 BHP and figured out I would need to hit 264.8 RWHP to achieve that goal. (331 x .80 = 264.8)

Goal 2 was the 300 RWHP goal. I took the 300 RWHP and figured out that would equate to 375 BHP. (300 / .80 = 375)

So, I ended up hitting both marks (as Bill already showed ) with 314.24 RWHP, which equals 392.8 BHP. (314.24 / .80 = 392.8) If you figure Torque out the same way (which I can't confirm nor deny), 333.48 at the rear wheels = 416.85 Torque at the flywheel!
OK Tom you have to help me out because I'm a newbie

How are you driving all that power with the Trooper? I want some of that power lol In other words what are the mods you've employeed.

Congrats Tom I'm glad you made your weekend with your numbers.
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Where the heck is everyone, you'd think it was a weekend...............A saturday maybe.........................

Yes Bill I'm addicted, the warden tells me I'm always "playing with your girl friend again" (girl friend = TMS) Which I usually respond just a second honey be right with you.......................yea right

Oh and I've been driving the GT all day with the C&L CAI and BAMA 93R and its totally exhilarating. I can't believe how it feels when your in 2nd gear and you start to cross 4k RPM its like after burners kick in god golly miss molly that’s a good mod.
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Originally Posted by philster2003
OK Tom you have to help me out because I'm a newbie

How are you driving all that power with the Trooper? I want some of that power lol In other words what are the mods you've employeed.

Congrats Tom I'm glad you made your weekend with your numbers.
Well, it's a totally different ball game with that car. Here is the engine:

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It's carbureted and raw horsepower... no computer... all tuned by me. Jetting, timing, etc. No SCT tuner to plug in. I have to do the research and look at the dyno graphs to determine the springs in the distributor for the advance, stop-bushings for how FAR it advances, the spark plug gap, the carburetor primary jets and rods, secondary jets, idle fuel mixture setting, step-up springs to control vacuum, how soon the secondaries open, rev-limiter, etc., etc....

Plus when I built it, I had to hand pick the cam, the crank, the pistons, the rods, the heads, the intake, the carburetor.... plus I finally found a carbon fiber lined clutch to get all the power to the rear wheels.

THAT's how you get just under 400 BHP!
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