I've done the autocross thing, and am not a particularly big fan of it. My problem is it rewards for how "nimble" a car is more than anything. I wouldn't mind it, except how much hp you have virtually does not matter.

Case in point. The last autocross I went to had a Turbo Supra (I know the guy, well done car and a very good driver who has raced for real in a pro series occasionally) Mustang Cobra, a C5 Vette (know this guy too), various imports etc. If I recall there was even an M3 on hand.

The fastest car there was a Focus ZX3 and he smoked everyone else. I like road racing, but I prefer a venue where you are not penalized for being larger than a breadbox and where you might actually be able to use your hp. This venue has virtually nothing to do with power, which just is not my thing.

 

That show f'n blows. I would rather see those cars die than see them out on the road.

 

They never mod the engine...they rebuilt a Honda motor once...but they don't touch anything mechanical

 

Still, I'll go back to my original point. LIke it or not, costly or not, long lasting or not, what those guys do to cars takes skills--skills that I'll never have--and skill impresses me.

Would I want an PS2 in my back window? No. 22 inch gold rims? No.

The guys who REALLY impress me on that show is the guy who does upholstry. Being able to stitch like that is darn cool.

Yes, they work on cars that should be taken behind that barn and put out of their misery.

--Paul

 

he's very good...so are the other fabricators for the interior...though they have different views on how its done(they want PS2's and such, i don't...ya know)...

 

DUUUUDE!!! i know!!! thats what i tell everyone and it pisses me off. remember the fairlane? they gave him a Toyota 4Runner witha TV underneath it. who needs a blender and dryer n a VW van? and Why would you have so many woofers that you cant see out your rear window? WTF? thats useless. that show can burn for all i care. i'll watch Overhaulin and Rides instead. Real car shows. not look at how expensive my crappy car is shows

althoug as a sidenote, i wouldnt mind a PS2 in my car as long as there was only 1 and not a million screens for it in stupid places

 

Ya u guys are right.. most of the stuff they put was useless.. but i wouldent mind takin my dads old car and sending it to them. bought it for $2,000 or so and after coming back from that show u could sell it on ebay for $30,000^ i gotta admit it is fun watchin how they put all the stuff in the car.. its just a shame that they gotta put it in a old worthless one

 

 

I love the cooper. Reminds me of my old MGB. "English" iron is fine with me, even if it is German made now!

My sis had a old Mini when she lived in the UK. What a blast to drive! Rocket into the roundabouts, down shift and blast out the other side. It was like driving a go kart, just with the steering wheel on the other side. Took awhile to get used to everything being moved.

Still, I'm glad to see them back and I'd certainly have one for a daily driver---british racing green Cooper-S with black hood stripes and a checkboard roof.

--P

 

Wait, one PS is ok and more is bling? :scratch: I don't see the distinction!

 

I have but the mustang was basically a race car. My question is what stock s2000 busts a 0-60 in 5.2 and a 13.6, I have never seen one break the 14 second barrier stock.....

and your car is a bike on four wheel, hence you have to twine the heck out of it to get it to move.

the lack of torque is a compromise in performance, either that or honda never learned how to build an engine that can produce any.

 

Wait, one PS is ok and more is bling? :scratch: I don't see the distinction! [/b][/quote]
one PS2 is ok if thats all. i find the numerous game consoles and infinite screens annoying. you need to know when enough is enough IMO. all you really need is one system and one screen. i'd prefer it in the trunk where the whole world cant see it either. i dont like to be tooo flamboyant...unless im advertising my love of the 49ers

my point is 1 PS2 + TV=practical vs 3 PS2s + 17 screens is just bullcrap. you dont need it. it only adds weight and if people see it, they're gonna key you're car, or steal sh*t. more screens and systems is just showing off how rich you're hiney is, one system and one screen is for thepeople who actually think its inginuitive ti put a game system in a car.

sorry if i confused you

 

Wait, one PS is ok and more is bling? :scratch: I don't see the distinction! [/b][/quote]
One for the kids in the back seat while on a long trip so they will leave me alone.

 

 

it was reported in car and driver when the car first came out. i don't need to own a car to know facts about it. if the car is supercharged i'm betting the reason is to fatten up the torque curve at lower rpm's. i know honda's are know for their reliability, so is toyota, but they both have very active service and parts departments and it's not all oil changes and maintenance. as far as the S2000's being at 150k i'm sure they haven't been run at redline the entire time, not even close. i don't want to come across as knocking theS2000 because i'm not. i even looked into buying one when they first came out (ended up getting an HD2500 silverado instead, don't ask). i like the car and the fact that it revved to 9000rpm and made 250hp from only 2 litres without forced induction, one heck of an accomplishment. but that doesn't take away from the fact that engine doesn't wake up until way north of 6000rpm and the faster a motor spins, the shorter it's life will be.

 

none taken

 

Maybe you're right, but drag racing is best way to test your car power.

How can you test your car power if you have to use brakes (which you have to use on the track)?

 

 

I got a good one for you, it shows the mentality. I'm getting groceries and there is some younger guy in the parking lot with a Civic si hatchback. He tells me how his car would probably take mine since my car is stock. I asked what made him think it's stock and he said it looked it. That my friends is their problem. I could have a supercharger under the hood for all he knew. He had custom wheels, ground effects kit, etc etc. That's funny.

 

Tom,

Have you got any dyno slips for your S2000?