what cost more than the Iraq war
10/8/08, 05:57 AM
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what cost more than the Iraq war
WHAT COSTS MORE PER YEAR THAN THE IRAQ WAR?
WONDER WHY YOU DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT THIS IN THE
DEBATES.
NONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT RUN THE DEBATES (TV NETWORKS), WHO
ASK THE QUESTIONS WILL ALLOW THIS TYPE INFORMATION TO GET
OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
THEY ALL GO HIDE WHEN THESE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED.
WHY??
WHAT COSTS MORE PER YEAR THAN THE IRAQ WAR?
Answer: Illegal Aliens Cause Massive Cuts For US Seniors
I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over
again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick
of reading them.
I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts:
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to
illegal aliens each year.
http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance
programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches
for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/f\iscalexec.html
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/f/iscal exec.HTML>
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for
illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and
secondary school education for children here illegally and
they cannot speak a word of English!
Http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRA! NSCRIPT S/0604/01/ldt0.HTML
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for
the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal
aliens
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal
aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens
for welfare and social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages
are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts! CNN.co
m/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime
rate that's two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In
particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime
problem in the US .
Http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01HTML
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION
illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as
19,500 illegal aliens from terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of
drugs,
cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the
Southern border
Homeland Security Report.
Http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the
total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230
billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually!
Over a five-year period.'
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in
remittances back to their countries of origin.
Http:/ /www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One
Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants
In The United States '.
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
Total cost is a whopping... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!
If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message.
On the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of
your neck, then forward it.
Snopes is provided for doubters:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
WONDER WHY YOU DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT THIS IN THE
DEBATES.
NONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT RUN THE DEBATES (TV NETWORKS), WHO
ASK THE QUESTIONS WILL ALLOW THIS TYPE INFORMATION TO GET
OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
THEY ALL GO HIDE WHEN THESE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED.
WHY??
WHAT COSTS MORE PER YEAR THAN THE IRAQ WAR?
Answer: Illegal Aliens Cause Massive Cuts For US Seniors
I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over
again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick
of reading them.
I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts:
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to
illegal aliens each year.
http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance
programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches
for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/f\iscalexec.html
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/f/iscal exec.HTML>
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for
illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and
secondary school education for children here illegally and
they cannot speak a word of English!
Http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRA! NSCRIPT S/0604/01/ldt0.HTML
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for
the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal
aliens
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal
aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens
for welfare and social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages
are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts! CNN.co
m/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime
rate that's two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In
particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime
problem in the US .
Http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01HTML
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION
illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as
19,500 illegal aliens from terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of
drugs,
cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the
Southern border
Homeland Security Report.
Http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the
total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230
billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually!
Over a five-year period.'
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in
remittances back to their countries of origin.
Http:/ /www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One
Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants
In The United States '.
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
Total cost is a whopping... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!
If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message.
On the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of
your neck, then forward it.
Snopes is provided for doubters:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
10/8/08, 02:35 PM
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What I don't understand is how people that enter into the country illegally are given the right to receive welfare. Speaking of welfare, I am sure it is the same in the US as it is in Canada. I am so tired of seeing a single mom walk into the bank on thursday with 4 kids, pregnant, talking on a cell phone, to cash her welfare check. Just so she can go to the beer store. I even heard one girl say "I can't wait to have another kid so I get more money from welfare". The system is broken but nobody seems to want to fix it. Some people do need welfare but most abuse it.
As for illegal aliens, stay out of my way and you better believe that if you smash into my car on the street I am not going to let you *** get away cause I know you will play the whole "I don't have insurance so sorry, you have to pay for the damage". You decided to come to this country but want us to play by your rules, religion, etc. Sorry, I refuse and I will not bend to "politically correct" crap.
Rant off.
As for illegal aliens, stay out of my way and you better believe that if you smash into my car on the street I am not going to let you *** get away cause I know you will play the whole "I don't have insurance so sorry, you have to pay for the damage". You decided to come to this country but want us to play by your rules, religion, etc. Sorry, I refuse and I will not bend to "politically correct" crap.
Rant off.
10/8/08, 04:32 PM
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What I don't understand is how people that enter into the country illegally are given the right to receive welfare. Speaking of welfare, I am sure it is the same in the US as it is in Canada. I am so tired of seeing a single mom walk into the bank on thursday with 4 kids, pregnant, talking on a cell phone, to cash her welfare check. Just so she can go to the beer store. I even heard one girl say "I can't wait to have another kid so I get more money from welfare". The system is broken but nobody seems to want to fix it. Some people do need welfare but most abuse it.
As for illegal aliens, stay out of my way and you better believe that if you smash into my car on the street I am not going to let you *** get away cause I know you will play the whole "I don't have insurance so sorry, you have to pay for the damage". You decided to come to this country but want us to play by your rules, religion, etc. Sorry, I refuse and I will not bend to "politically correct" crap.
Rant off.
As for illegal aliens, stay out of my way and you better believe that if you smash into my car on the street I am not going to let you *** get away cause I know you will play the whole "I don't have insurance so sorry, you have to pay for the damage". You decided to come to this country but want us to play by your rules, religion, etc. Sorry, I refuse and I will not bend to "politically correct" crap.
Rant off.
Wow, even from a 
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10/8/08, 07:18 PM
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Step 1. Build the border walls. On both sides, north and south. Oh, and have a flotilla of 24hr a day naval vessels watching for the sneaky ones who try to swim or boat around the wall.
Step 0. Realize that is bloody expensive as hell too. It may be cheaper to leave it be.
You see... damned if you do, damned if you don't.
So... leave the government OUT OF THE PROCESS. Except to do this:
Punish the consumer with hefty fines when a company is found to have illegal aliens in their employ.
What? You think it should be 'punish the company?' Well, I got news for you. There's pretty much not a company on this earth (unless it's killed by overage of fines that exceed it's possible payment) that doesn't pass on those fines to you, dear consumer.
Even the mighty Exxon, after being fined for the Valdez incident... didn't pay a dime of it. You and I did.
Only the end consumer pays anything a company is liable for. And then more, because not many companies operate for a break even/loss situation. Eventually, that is the outcome achieved: the consumer pays for it all.
So... Now that I've added that to the mix... what do we do?
/sincerely curious.
//I say just don't hire them... but easier said than done.
///and most of them aren't bad... just not from here.
Step 0. Realize that is bloody expensive as hell too. It may be cheaper to leave it be.
You see... damned if you do, damned if you don't.
So... leave the government OUT OF THE PROCESS. Except to do this:
Punish the consumer with hefty fines when a company is found to have illegal aliens in their employ.
What? You think it should be 'punish the company?' Well, I got news for you. There's pretty much not a company on this earth (unless it's killed by overage of fines that exceed it's possible payment) that doesn't pass on those fines to you, dear consumer.
Even the mighty Exxon, after being fined for the Valdez incident... didn't pay a dime of it. You and I did.
Only the end consumer pays anything a company is liable for. And then more, because not many companies operate for a break even/loss situation. Eventually, that is the outcome achieved: the consumer pays for it all.
So... Now that I've added that to the mix... what do we do?
/sincerely curious.
//I say just don't hire them... but easier said than done.
///and most of them aren't bad... just not from here.
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10/14/08, 03:40 PM
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- Send a bill to Mexico for every Mexican Citizen who is lodged in a US prison/jail.
- When registering for the school year in the US , if parents cannot provide proof of US citizenship/legal residency, charge them a non-resident surcharge for each child they enroll.
- Welfare recipents must provide US citizenship/legal residency or no benefits.
- Change the law that makes the children of illegal aliens automatically citizens of the US. Make it so that the child inherits the same citizenship as the parents.
- Give businesses an incentive to hire US citizens/legal residents. Add a tax penalty for each illegal alien a business employs.
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10/16/08, 07:04 AM
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I agree with this but add the provision that if a child is born here and the parents are here LEGALLY, give the child, at the age of 18, the option of 4 years military service and automatic citizenship (this would also apply to ROTC and a minimum 4 year commitment as a commissioned officer). Citizenship would be automatic after the 4 hitch or if the person was medically discharged/ RIFed.
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10/16/08, 09:56 AM
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I agree with this but add the provision that if a child is born here and the parents are here LEGALLY, give the child, at the age of 18, the option of 4 years military service and automatic citizenship (this would also apply to ROTC and a minimum 4 year commitment as a commissioned officer). Citizenship would be automatic after the 4 hitch or if the person was medically discharged/ RIFed.
Believe it or not this is not really a Right/Left issue. I'm with all you guys on this one. No way in hell we should give welfare benefits to illegals. If someone walks bleeding into a hospital they should be treated, but if you want unemployment benefits or any other gov't benefits, go back where you came from or else go through the citizenship process.
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