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6/13/08, 06:30 PM
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6/13/08, 06:34 PM
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I think Chris was talking about the "theory of evolution"...that humans evolved from chance mutations of non living goop. Karman you are correct. Evolution does take place, but It doesnt add up for all of the creatures on earth to have happened by chance...IMO
6/13/08, 06:36 PM
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The problem with this perspective is that you are expecting anyone that claims to be "christian" to be acting different then a non christian. When really the only real part of it is to beleive and claim christ as your savior. It is true that to follow gods exact words you would act differently and infact act as jesus would. But works don't get you to heaven. So its all great and everything but a person can be a christian without appearing saint like in everything they do. Even if it is what to strive for.
no not perfect but different
Mat 7:14 For narrow is the gate, and constricted is the way that leads away into life, and few are the ones finding it.
Mat 7:15 But beware of the false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inside they are plundering wolves.
Mat 7:16 From their fruits you shall know them. Do they gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?
Mat 7:17 So every good tree produces good fruits, but the corrupt tree produces evil fruits.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot produce evil fruits, nor a corrupt tree produce good fruits.
Mat 7:19 Every tree not producing good fruit is cut down and is thrown into fire.
Mat 7:20 Then surely from their fruits you shall know them.
6/13/08, 06:37 PM
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6/13/08, 06:40 PM
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What the heck. I'll jump into the fray.
Okay, here's my little etymological 2 cents.
Scientific theory is an explanation of actual observable things.
Sir Isaac Newton's theory of universal gravitation works just fine.
http://www.notjustatheory.com/
Maybe God created the world in 6 days.
I don't know, I wasn't there.
I don't know WHEN Evolution started I only know for a fact that it exists.
Evolution is a moot point of discussion only because it truly exists.
It is not the "other side" to anything.
It just exists.
Okay, here's my little etymological 2 cents.
Scientific theory is an explanation of actual observable things.
Sir Isaac Newton's theory of universal gravitation works just fine.
http://www.notjustatheory.com/
Maybe God created the world in 6 days.
I don't know, I wasn't there.
I don't know WHEN Evolution started I only know for a fact that it exists.
Evolution is a moot point of discussion only because it truly exists.
It is not the "other side" to anything.
It just exists.
evolution must have a change from one species into another
a Great Dane and a toy Poodle are the same genetically but they look completly different
6/13/08, 06:45 PM
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my response was not to say nothing would change but more so that since there are no works to earn your way and since noone is the judge of who is saved and who isn't besides god then it would be impossible for you to judge them and say that only 30% or whatever are really christians.
6/13/08, 06:47 PM
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Satan is the god of this world and has always sought to replace the real God he is an imatator and a deciever appearing as a counterfiet the best counterfiets always are close copies but are worthless
6/13/08, 06:49 PM
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So your saying that the devil was in the works of the quran and mentions the bible to try to act as truth?
6/13/08, 06:52 PM
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6/13/08, 06:54 PM
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6/13/08, 06:56 PM
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Satan is not the god of anything. God does allow evil of course. All part of free will. If we had no will to rebel from god he would never get true love from us when serving him.
6/13/08, 06:57 PM
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6/13/08, 07:10 PM
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2Co 4:3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
2Co 4:4 in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Also men are called god in the orgianal hebrew and greek the word god doesnot necessarily mean a all powerful supernatural being it can also mean a power or authority or judge
Psa 82:6 I said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High.
Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, "Has it not been written in your Law, 'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS'?Joh 10:35"If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),
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6/13/08, 07:24 PM
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The bible says he is the god of this world
2Co 4:3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
2Co 4:4 in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Also men are called god in the orgianal hebrew and greek the word god doesnot necessarily mean a all powerful supernatural being it can also mean a power or authority or judge
2Co 4:3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
2Co 4:4 in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Also men are called god in the orgianal hebrew and greek the word god doesnot necessarily mean a all powerful supernatural being it can also mean a power or authority or judge
So in your sentense of saying satan is god of this world would be incorrect. It is clear in the bible that god is the creator and ruler of this earth. and the only reason that satan has any play on earth is due to god allowing it.
6/13/08, 07:26 PM
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